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Why shouldn't the ABA makes some noise and announce 1/3 of law schools will lose accreditation because the market is already flooded with attorneys with inescapable student loan debt? They could implement this after 5 years allowing people that are already attending or planning to attend to finish up. I understand it's the consumers choice to go to expensive low tier law schools, but graduating from a TTTT with any 100K+ debt and being unemployed is cruel and unusual punishment. LOL

hous wrote:Why shouldn't the ABA makes some noise and announce 1/3 of law schools will lose accreditation because the market is already flooded with attorneys with inescapable student loan debt? They could implement this after 5 years allowing people that are already attending or planning to attend to finish up. I understand it's the consumers choice to go to expensive low tier law schools, but graduating from a TTTT with any 100K+ debt and being unemployed is cruel and unusual punishment. LOL

Why should accreditation depend on there being enough legal jobs to go around?

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I don't agree with OP, but I do think some schools should either close or be acquired by more prestigious universities and colleges.

Many threads here have addressed this topic, and most people appear to agree that the number of schools should be reduced to about 125-150, and certain schools should close.

Schools like Golden Gate, California Western, Southern, Loyola (MD), UDC, Texas Southern, Florida Coastal, John Marshall (ATL), CUNY, and Cooley should be gone.

Schools like MIT, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Purdue, GA. Tech, Davidson, and Wellesley, could stand to open them instead.

I thought UCI's opening was a stroke of genius, not because California needed another law school - it didn't! - but because it gave California another law school with a legitimate mission of educating well-trained lawyers who could actually wind up with jobs. Several California schools should close.

I see a disbelief that normal market forces won't already shut down these institutions, but let,them live in the free market and see what happens. They will not thrive.

NotMyRealName09 wrote:I see a disbelief that normal market forces won't already shut down these institutions, but let,them live in the free market and see what happens. They will not thrive.

And even with the screwed up system we have we'll go from 50k grads to 35k in just a few years. I also wonder why anyone thinks shutting down 1/3 of the schools will help if we're not capping enrollment at the others.

NotMyRealName09 wrote:I see a disbelief that normal market forces won't already shut down these institutions, but let,them live in the free market and see what happens. They will not thrive.

Because asymmetric information and optimism bias?

Tiago Splitter wrote:

NotMyRealName09 wrote:I see a disbelief that normal market forces won't already shut down these institutions, but let,them live in the free market and see what happens. They will not thrive.

And even with the screwed up system we have we'll go from 50k grads to 35k in just a few years. I also wonder why anyone thinks shutting down 1/3 of the schools will help if we're not capping enrollment at the others.

Because the law schools are slower to lower their admissions standards.

Oh, by rights, probably half of America's law schools should close. Achieving a large number of closures through ABA accreditation requirements would have to be done carefully, however, to avoid tripping up on antitrust/cartel law.

NotMyRealName09 wrote:I see a disbelief that normal market forces won't already shut down these institutions, but let,them live in the free market and see what happens. They will not thrive.

If there was a free market system this is undoubtedly what would happen. Unfortunately, with the insane ease of getting government loans these days lots of the school survive because the students are taking from Uncle Sam and handing it the schools w/o thinking of long-term consequences. If there were only private loans most of these students would be ineligible for them and obviously would not be willing to go to law school anymore. This is also partially the reason for insane tuition hikes in the last decade.

Anyway, I also disagree with OP because closer to 75% of schools should be discredited imo (don't know the exact percentage, but the point is most law schools are basically scams).

PDaddy wrote:Schools like Golden Gate, California Western, Southern, Loyola (MD), UDC, Texas Southern, Florida Coastal, John Marshall (ATL), CUNY, and Cooley should be gone.

Curious: why CUNY? Of the NYC schools, it's by far the cheapest, and it serves more of a niche PI market than anything else (read: no one goes there thinking they want to do BigLaw).

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PDaddy wrote:I don't agree with OP, but I do think some schools should either close or be acquired by more prestigious universities and colleges.

Many threads here have addressed this topic, and most people appear to agree that the number of schools should be reduced to about 125-150, and certain schools should close.

Schools like Golden Gate, California Western, Southern, Loyola (MD), UDC, Texas Southern, Florida Coastal, John Marshall (ATL), CUNY, and Cooley should be gone.

Schools like MIT, Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Purdue, GA. Tech, Davidson, and Wellesley, could stand to open them instead.

I thought UCI's opening was a stroke of genius, not because California needed another law school - it didn't! - but because it gave California another law school with a legitimate mission of educating well-trained lawyers who could actually wind up with jobs. Several California schools should close.

This post is hilarious.