Re: After Grades - What did we learn?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:40 pm
I hate reading stuff like this since I'm still waiting for one grade.vanwinkle wrote:So tragically true.Big Shrimpin wrote:My lesson: One class can tank the ship.
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I hate reading stuff like this since I'm still waiting for one grade.vanwinkle wrote:So tragically true.Big Shrimpin wrote:My lesson: One class can tank the ship.
Big law as opposed to what? What options does the average law school dropout have that are better than those available to someone who graduated in the top 15% from a TT?eth3n wrote:I feel you on the one class part.Big Shrimpin wrote:top 15% at T2 after first semester--killself? Dropout? Buckle down?
I think I aged about a decade waiting for grades to be released.
My lesson: One class can tank the ship.
#1 - BASE YOUR DECISION ON YOUR PERSONAL FINANCIAL SITUATION
Are you paying sticker? Will you only accept biglaw? What will your debt be?
If you will be in huge amounts of debt, I think you know the answer cause almost every single post says that bigmoney jobs are very very hard to get ITE (assuming no special circumstances), especially from anything past T14 if you arent the shining star of your year.
Do the math, if it is economically unfeasible for you to continue if you can't get biglaw job, might be smart to cut your losses. Do not assume you will bring up the grades. If you have a scholly, or you will be in tiny debt/you have your own money, fuck it do what you want, if you can find a job THAT YOU ENJOY reasonably obtainable with top 1/3 of your school, go for it.
The biglaw hysteria is a money issue. Some people are paying out the nose for their education (150k+) and its value is dropping fast.
Bankhead wrote:+10LoyolaLaw2012 wrote:I learned that the LSAT doesn't necessarily measure your success in law school.
People are ridiculous on these boards sometimes. Top 15% should not warrant quitting on law school and is by no means average. Congrats on the good first semester.eth3n wrote:Point of my post was that he has to run his own info to figure out his situation. "economically unfeasible" (e.g. debt after 3 years + job prospects assuming no biglaw + get to be a lawyer VS debt after 1 semester + job prospects based on UG or other skills + don't get to be a lawyer)
Average law student doesn't get me very far. I have no idea what he did before law school. Hence why I said he should look at his own situation. Biglaw might not be realistic with 15% from T2(and im likely to be in a similar situation). He might be fresh from UG, he might have had a career before law school and he wanted to be a lawyer. Maybe I don't get what your asking. Im just saying base the decision on money, assuming he won't get biglaw.
I think he meant average in the terms of work experience/prior life experience not how well they did in law school.2009 Prospective wrote:People are ridiculous on these boards sometimes. Top 15% should not warrant quitting on law school and is by no means average. Congrats on the good first semester.eth3n wrote:Point of my post was that he has to run his own info to figure out his situation. "economically unfeasible" (e.g. debt after 3 years + job prospects assuming no biglaw + get to be a lawyer VS debt after 1 semester + job prospects based on UG or other skills + don't get to be a lawyer)
Average law student doesn't get me very far. I have no idea what he did before law school. Hence why I said he should look at his own situation. Biglaw might not be realistic with 15% from T2(and im likely to be in a similar situation). He might be fresh from UG, he might have had a career before law school and he wanted to be a lawyer. Maybe I don't get what your asking. Im just saying base the decision on money, assuming he won't get biglaw.
PM me who you're talking about...rbgrocio wrote:Bankhead wrote:+10LoyolaLaw2012 wrote:I learned that the LSAT doesn't necessarily measure your success in law school.
I knew this going into law school. In fact, after one semester some of the highest LSAT scores in my class have lost their scholarship and are suffering the pain of a 2.0 GPA.
Seriously.dresden doll wrote:You shouldn't even go to LS where you can't afford to finish at median, let alone top 15 percent. That's just borderline insanity.
You are correct sir, I didnt quote the guy who was giving me crap, I understand your misconception.Mal wrote:I think he meant average in the terms of work experience/prior life experience not how well they did in law school.2009 Prospective wrote:People are ridiculous on these boards sometimes. Top 15% should not warrant quitting on law school and is by no means average. Congrats on the good first semester.eth3n wrote:Point of my post was that he has to run his own info to figure out his situation. "economically unfeasible" (e.g. debt after 3 years + job prospects assuming no biglaw + get to be a lawyer VS debt after 1 semester + job prospects based on UG or other skills + don't get to be a lawyer)
Average law student doesn't get me very far. I have no idea what he did before law school. Hence why I said he should look at his own situation. Biglaw might not be realistic with 15% from T2(and im likely to be in a similar situation). He might be fresh from UG, he might have had a career before law school and he wanted to be a lawyer. Maybe I don't get what your asking. Im just saying base the decision on money, assuming he won't get biglaw.
see Arrow.sayan wrote:Hey pithy, will you ever consider making a 1L guide as good as your legendary LSAT guide?pithypike wrote:1. No word limit >>>> word limit.
2. The more supplements the better.
This.pithypike wrote:see Arrow.sayan wrote:Hey pithy, will you ever consider making a 1L guide as good as your legendary LSAT guide?pithypike wrote:1. No word limit >>>> word limit.
2. The more supplements the better.
I'm agreeing with you all over the place, OS.OperaSoprano wrote:This.pithypike wrote:see Arrow.sayan wrote:Hey pithy, will you ever consider making a 1L guide as good as your legendary LSAT guide?pithypike wrote:1. No word limit >>>> word limit.
2. The more supplements the better.
Other things I learned:
Our perceptions of ourselves can limit us if we let them. I spent this semester (really the past couple of years) being so relentlessly cruel to myself that if I had done it to anyone else I would be justifiably reviled.
Nothing happens in a vacuum. I can count at least nine other people who were instrumental in just getting me through this semester. I would not have even been able to take my finals absent the kind aid of other students.
Good numbers =/= happiness in life. I think this was the big one.
+1,000OperaSoprano wrote:Good numbers =/= happiness in life. I think this was the big one.
Better theory: you studied more for the subjects you found the most difficult.dood wrote:Grade inversely proportion to how much I studied for the final. Theory: I over-studied, only confusing myself. Better not to over-think a problem.
1st final - finished outlining 3 weeks before the final, 2 full weeks of studying, memorized black letter law, took ~10 practice exams: lowest grade
2nd final - made outline and had about 1 week of studying, memorized black letter law, took 4 practice exams: 2nd lowest grade
3rd final - 3 days of studying, finished outline 2 days before final: 2nd highest grade
4th final - finished outline about a week prior to final, 1 day of intense studying, was burned out and tired: highest grade
This semester I will only do a couple practice tests, and stick to one supplement per subject.