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ITT Admin

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:46 pm
by stillwater
After my ill-fated other topic-oriented threads, I'll keep the name here simple. Anyone else as foolish as I was and taking admin? Let's discuss the lawl.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:59 am
by Tom Joad
Hey. How is the arbitrary and capricious standard used to evaluate factual determinations in an informal rulemaking or adjudication.

Substantial evidence for formal rulemaking and adjudication makes since to me, but this one confuses me.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:05 am
by gaud
This thread helped me in the spring: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=172414

Good luck. Admin is awful.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:18 am
by Tom Joad
gaud wrote:This thread helped me in the spring: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=172414

Good luck. Admin is awful.
Danka.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:06 am
by redsox550
easily the most annoying and worst and most complicated class ive ever had

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:23 pm
by stillwater
anyone have any good materials on cost-benefit analysis? ive been using the Beermann supplement that Kalvano champions but it's thin to empty of cost-benefit analysis shit.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:30 pm
by Carlo Von Sexron
Tom Joad wrote:Hey. How is the arbitrary and capricious standard used to evaluate factual determinations in an informal rulemaking or adjudication.

Substantial evidence for formal rulemaking and adjudication makes since to me, but this one confuses me.
From my outline (had a great prof, got an A- on a very tight curve):
State Farm analysis: Where the issue is the agency's fact-finding, the agency will lose only if:
(1) agency entirely fails to consider an "important aspect" of the problem. e.g., regulatory alternatives. 'Important aspect' is made 'important' by the lawyers. Agencies fail to respond to these 'alternatives' at their peril. This was the airbag alternative the Court in State Farm found probative.
OR (2) the agency decision "runs counter" to the evidence before it. (oddly worded standard. The court doesn't weigh the evidence and make a choice, it only asks whether the agency has grappled with the evidence and gives a reason the court can understand. Whether the court actually agrees with the agency's conclusion is irrelevant. The agency loses if it fails to respond to key evidence against its position. 'Key' can mean crucial to the intellectual underpinnings of the agency's standard.

*There are two more factors, but they're dead letter or irrelevant per Chevron: agency relies on 'factors' other than those Congress intended (But this is ACTUALLY 'not-in-accordance with law'. This factor is irrelevant because Chevron takes care of it.) The other dead letter is that the agency decision is "too implausible."
Hope that helps.

Re: ITT Admin

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:35 pm
by Tom Joad
Thanks bro.