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Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:17 pm
by usuaggie
Thoughts? The MEEs were a little rough on me for the topics I haven't looked at in a few weeks.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:21 pm
by kaiser
Is the simulated exam real MBE questions, or is it more BarBri Q's (or could you not tell)?

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:56 pm
by nevdash
BarBri wrote:Because this exam is harder than the actual MBE, don’t worry if your score here is significantly lower than the average on the actual exam.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:08 pm
by blong4133
I though the MEE wasn't too bad. I missed a few issues but I think that's just something I'll catch once I get some more studying in (hopefully). Those stupid MPT's are a pain in the ass though.

Got a 60 on each section for the MBE and got a 120. I don't know how to take that. I feel like I was guessing at almost every question. There's hardly ever an answer that I choose where I'm 100% sure. It's driving me nuts. And I got a 58 on the diagnostic so it's only a 2 point jump after all the studying I've put in.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:10 pm
by kaiser
blong4133 wrote:I though the MEE wasn't too bad. I missed a few issues but I think that's just something I'll catch once I get some more studying in (hopefully). Those stupid MPT's are a pain in the ass though.

Got a 60 on each section for the MBE and got a 120. I don't know how to take that. I feel like I was guessing at almost every question. There's hardly ever an answer that I choose where I'm 100% sure. It's driving me nuts. And I got a 58 on the diagnostic so it's only a 2 point jump after all the studying I've put in.
I'm guessing the diagnostic questions are meant to be much easier

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:13 pm
by blong4133
kaiser wrote:
blong4133 wrote:I though the MEE wasn't too bad. I missed a few issues but I think that's just something I'll catch once I get some more studying in (hopefully). Those stupid MPT's are a pain in the ass though.

Got a 60 on each section for the MBE and got a 120. I don't know how to take that. I feel like I was guessing at almost every question. There's hardly ever an answer that I choose where I'm 100% sure. It's driving me nuts. And I got a 58 on the diagnostic so it's only a 2 point jump after all the studying I've put in.
I'm guessing the diagnostic questions are meant to be much easier
Me too. But it's still frustrating when I think about all the work I've put in to only see a 2 point jump. I get that this one was a lot harder considering it was twice as long, and the questions are likely harder. It still ticks me off though. haha

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:01 pm
by c3pO4
blong4133 wrote:
kaiser wrote:
blong4133 wrote:I though the MEE wasn't too bad. I missed a few issues but I think that's just something I'll catch once I get some more studying in (hopefully). Those stupid MPT's are a pain in the ass though.

Got a 60 on each section for the MBE and got a 120. I don't know how to take that. I feel like I was guessing at almost every question. There's hardly ever an answer that I choose where I'm 100% sure. It's driving me nuts. And I got a 58 on the diagnostic so it's only a 2 point jump after all the studying I've put in.
I'm guessing the diagnostic questions are meant to be much easier
Me too. But it's still frustrating when I think about all the work I've put in to only see a 2 point jump. I get that this one was a lot harder considering it was twice as long, and the questions are likely harder. It still ticks me off though. haha
120 is pretty good... probably 60th percentile, definitely above 55.

translates to 135-140 raw if you are the typical barbri student between now and the real thing

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:22 pm
by RodneyBoonfield
130 After feeling seriously ill during the second half (profuse sweating, debilitating nausea/dizziness, multiple room exits, dry mouth).

71 on 1st half then 59 on second half

Beware of energy drink OD

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:10 pm
by usuaggie
c3pO4 wrote:
blong4133 wrote:
kaiser wrote:
blong4133 wrote:I though the MEE wasn't too bad. I missed a few issues but I think that's just something I'll catch once I get some more studying in (hopefully). Those stupid MPT's are a pain in the ass though.

Got a 60 on each section for the MBE and got a 120. I don't know how to take that. I feel like I was guessing at almost every question. There's hardly ever an answer that I choose where I'm 100% sure. It's driving me nuts. And I got a 58 on the diagnostic so it's only a 2 point jump after all the studying I've put in.
I'm guessing the diagnostic questions are meant to be much easier
Me too. But it's still frustrating when I think about all the work I've put in to only see a 2 point jump. I get that this one was a lot harder considering it was twice as long, and the questions are likely harder. It still ticks me off though. haha


120 is pretty good... probably 60th percentile, definitely above 55.

translates to 135-140 raw if you are the typical barbri student between now and the real thing

66th last year --LinkRemoved--


I take the mbe part tomorrow

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:50 pm
by Scurredsitless1
I got a 150 on the simulated MBE today (76 on the front, 74 on the back). Up from a 59 on the diagnostic. Felt pretty good about it... I know there are still things I just don't know....

However, I have yet to do better than a 3 (out of 7) on the graded essays.... I'm starting to think they're fucking with me on those.... In my state, the MBE is only worth 1/3 of the game though.....

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:57 pm
by c3pO4
Scurredsitless1 wrote:I got a 150 on the simulated MBE today (76 on the front, 74 on the back). Up from a 59 on the diagnostic. Felt pretty good about it... I know there are still things I just don't know....

However, I have yet to do better than a 3 (out of 7) on the graded essays.... I'm starting to think they're fucking with me on those.... In my state, the MBE is only worth 1/3 of the game though.....
97th percentile? wow.. teach me your secrets lol

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:27 pm
by Scurredsitless1
c3pO4 wrote:
Scurredsitless1 wrote:I got a 150 on the simulated MBE today (76 on the front, 74 on the back). Up from a 59 on the diagnostic. Felt pretty good about it... I know there are still things I just don't know....

However, I have yet to do better than a 3 (out of 7) on the graded essays.... I'm starting to think they're fucking with me on those.... In my state, the MBE is only worth 1/3 of the game though.....
97th percentile? wow.. teach me your secrets lol
Seriously? That can't be right....

I did all the AMPs..... I didn't do it like they say to do it - as I never clicked "i don't know" or "it's one of these 2". If I didn't know, I just guessed... But I did them all.... They were terrible and felt like a waste of time. But BarBri kept saying "it's science and we have nerds that figured out if you do it, you'll do better on the MBE". Not understanding much about science, but believing AMP was probably based on legit memory and learning science-y studies - I trusted it.

I also did all the study smart questions - and I did them all online because I like how they track the areas that I've been missing a lot of questions. I read the entire answer for every question I missed (and some that I got right, if I felt a little squishy about the question).

I haven't opened the CMR or the big outline book except to address specific questions - which has been like once or twice. I have been using the lecture outlines nearly exclusively. I also made note cards from the lecture outlines - I think from this point on, I'm just using the note cards and practice questions....

That all being said, I just moved to a new city and I don't really know many people, so I don't have many distractions. Also, I went to a tier 2 school and have a big law job lined up - so I kinda don't want to fuck this up. I'm studying 7 or 8 hours a day - everyday (which I don't think is unreasonable).

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:05 pm
by c3pO4
Scurredsitless1 wrote:
c3pO4 wrote:
Scurredsitless1 wrote:I got a 150 on the simulated MBE today (76 on the front, 74 on the back). Up from a 59 on the diagnostic. Felt pretty good about it... I know there are still things I just don't know....

However, I have yet to do better than a 3 (out of 7) on the graded essays.... I'm starting to think they're fucking with me on those.... In my state, the MBE is only worth 1/3 of the game though.....
97th percentile? wow.. teach me your secrets lol
Seriously? That can't be right....

I did all the AMPs..... I didn't do it like they say to do it - as I never clicked "i don't know" or "it's one of these 2". If I didn't know, I just guessed... But I did them all.... They were terrible and felt like a waste of time. But BarBri kept saying "it's science and we have nerds that figured out if you do it, you'll do better on the MBE". Not understanding much about science, but believing AMP was probably based on legit memory and learning science-y studies - I trusted it.

I also did all the study smart questions - and I did them all online because I like how they track the areas that I've been missing a lot of questions. I read the entire answer for every question I missed (and some that I got right, if I felt a little squishy about the question).

I haven't opened the CMR or the big outline book except to address specific questions - which has been like once or twice. I have been using the lecture outlines nearly exclusively. I also made note cards from the lecture outlines - I think from this point on, I'm just using the note cards and practice questions....

That all being said, I just moved to a new city and I don't really know many people, so I don't have many distractions. Also, I went to a tier 2 school and have a big law job lined up - so I kinda don't want to fuck this up. I'm studying 7 or 8 hours a day - everyday (which I don't think is unreasonable).
nice. I've only done about half the study smart's. i skipped half of the amps and actually did better in subjects where i did the amps so yea, gonna go back and do those... this sounds like a good plan. and yes, i'm not kidding. you are in the top 5% at worst. nice work

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:40 pm
by usuaggie
70 on the front end 63 on the back. I had 40/50 the first 50 and thought I was cruising...


But I'm happy. It puts me around the 85th percentile from last year.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:00 pm
by joeshmo39
Took my practice one today. 117 (64 front, 53 back)

I just feel "meh" about it. It went alright, but not great. I'm not really sure what I was doing after lunch. I missed 15 of the first 25 and 36 of the first 50. It didn't get much better from there obviously.. Maybe it's just the fatigue factor, but my heart was sinking fast as I scored the back. And the back didn't feel hard other than the last 20 where I knew I was guessing a lot.

I'm looking forward to the Barbri breakdown. I think I had more contracts issues than I should have. I also think I got tripped up too often on hearsay.

Based on forum rumors, ~110 is average for the Barbri Practice MBE. I figure if 84% of PA takers pass, and I'm a few points above people taking Barbri, I'm on rack.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:13 pm
by rnf1292
I got a 109 which was only the 36%th percentile. Discouraging to say the least, especially since I haven't exactly been slacking.... :shock:

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:50 pm
by blong4133
rnf1292 wrote:I got a 109 which was only the 36%th percentile. Discouraging to say the least, especially since I haven't exactly been slacking.... :shock:
Don't sweat it. Go watch the analysis lectures. I was only planning to watch the ones for the questions I missed, but I'm finding that they are very helpful at picking apart the questions and really figuring out how to attack them. I'm also finding that I made a lot of stupid mistakes (getting answers wrong that I knew because I missed an important fact).

Take it as a learning opportunity. That's why they do this. Look over the stuff, think about why you got it wrong, and focus on the stuff you're having trouble with. You've got plenty of time to get the score up. I wasn't too happy with my score but I've read on other forums of people getting 100's on the simulated exam, then pulling 140's - to high 150's on the real thing (scaled scores).

Just keep trucking along. That's the approach I'm taking at least. One month and you'll never have to worry about it again.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:57 pm
by c3pO4
blong4133 wrote:
rnf1292 wrote:I got a 109 which was only the 36%th percentile. Discouraging to say the least, especially since I haven't exactly been slacking.... :shock:
Don't sweat it. Go watch the analysis lectures. I was only planning to watch the ones for the questions I missed, but I'm finding that they are very helpful at picking apart the questions and really figuring out how to attack them. I'm also finding that I made a lot of stupid mistakes (getting answers wrong that I knew because I missed an important fact).

Take it as a learning opportunity. That's why they do this. Look over the stuff, think about why you got it wrong, and focus on the stuff you're having trouble with. You've got plenty of time to get the score up. I wasn't too happy with my score but I've read on other forums of people getting 100's on the simulated exam, then pulling 140's - to high 150's on the real thing (scaled scores).

Just keep trucking along. That's the approach I'm taking at least. One month and you'll never have to worry about it again.
also, based on barbri passage rates the 36% percentile, and even the 26% percentile, will pass

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:10 pm
by Shaggier1
Where are you guys getting these percentiles? I got 132/200 right. Do I need to scale that score somehow first? Where does that put me?

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:22 pm
by blong4133
Shaggier1 wrote:Where are you guys getting these percentiles? I got 132/200 right. Do I need to scale that score somehow first? Where does that put me?
According to last year's results, a 132 would probably put you at about the 84th percentile, give or take. So you're on track to kill it.

A previous poster posted a link about half-way up the thread that contains a document with last year's stats from the simulated MBE.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:46 pm
by shepdawg
I finally got my breakdown of the simulated mbe back yesterday. It was helpful to see that although I was in 97th percentile overall, I can improve drastically on impeachment and future estates.

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:03 pm
by tfer2222
shepdawg wrote:I finally got my breakdown of the simulated mbe back yesterday. It was helpful to see that although I was in 97th percentile overall, I can improve drastically on impeachment and future estates.
was this humblebrag necessary

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:05 pm
by shepdawg
tfer2222 wrote:
shepdawg wrote:I finally got my breakdown of the simulated mbe back yesterday. It was helpful to see that although I was in 97th percentile overall, I can improve drastically on impeachment and future estates.
was this humblebrag necessary
Yes? I never brag. I am as humble as Jesus.


and... umad?

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:22 pm
by DwightSchruteFarms
shepdawg wrote:I finally got my breakdown of the simulated mbe back yesterday. It was helpful to see that although I was in 97th percentile overall, I can improve drastically on impeachment and future estates.
What a boner. Who writes shit like this?

Re: Barbri simulated exam

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:43 am
by bdepeyster
138/200

I hate real property MBEs.