FordhamLawquacious wrote:Which is not inconsistent with the statement you quoted (to the extent you were implying it was--you may not have been)... What tier school do you go to out of curiousity (ie. I think you are around T10 but I'm not sure).dingbat wrote:My school sets a mandatory 3% minimum C grades, which is 1 per section or 2 per supersectionLawquacious wrote:eeksorry wrote:If so, how did it happen? Is it even possible to fail if you go to most classes and go so far as to study a little?
I think a lot of it has to do with the professor. IMO most profs at T20-level schools won't give below B- or C+ (or maybe C) .
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dingbat wrote:FordhamLawquacious wrote:Which is not inconsistent with the statement you quoted (to the extent you were implying it was--you may not have been)... What tier school do you go to out of curiousity (ie. I think you are around T10 but I'm not sure).dingbat wrote:My school sets a mandatory 3% minimum C grades, which is 1 per section or 2 per supersectionLawquacious wrote:
I think a lot of it has to do with the professor. IMO most profs at T20-level schools won't give below B- or C+ (or maybe C) .
Cool, thx bro. I'm at T20, and luckily I don't think there are such required curves... at least for upperclassmen. Most profs don't give below B-, but out of about 50 profs I have seen one give D-level grades and another who gave as many Cs as she did Bs (based on released grade distributions at my school).
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I know. So so shittykalvano wrote:fathergoose wrote:In 1L fall contracts we had someone fail. Our prof normalized his grades on a 0-100 scale and sent out the high, low, and median grades. The median was in the 50s or 60s or something but the low was along the lines of a 6 or 7. That same person subsequently failed a class the next semester I think and is barely hanging on to graduate.
To be fair, you go to a shitty T2.
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fathergoose wrote:I know. So so shittykalvano wrote:fathergoose wrote:In 1L fall contracts we had someone fail. Our prof normalized his grades on a 0-100 scale and sent out the high, low, and median grades. The median was in the 50s or 60s or something but the low was along the lines of a 6 or 7. That same person subsequently failed a class the next semester I think and is barely hanging on to graduate.
To be fair, you go to a shitty T2.
TBF, I think Kalvano was in kind of a feisty mood haha
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Lawquacious wrote:fathergoose wrote:I know. So so shittykalvano wrote:fathergoose wrote:In 1L fall contracts we had someone fail. Our prof normalized his grades on a 0-100 scale and sent out the high, low, and median grades. The median was in the 50s or 60s or something but the low was along the lines of a 6 or 7. That same person subsequently failed a class the next semester I think and is barely hanging on to graduate.
To be fair, you go to a shitty T2.
TBF, I think Kalvano was in kind of a feisty mood haha
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"Higher" being a very relative termkalvano wrote:We attend the same fine institution of higher learning.
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My dean of students told me today that the standard for an F is "did it appear as if the student had not actually taken the class." That being said, we have an F every couple of years. Apparently mostly people who deserve it.
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In theory we have Fs, but only for cheating/plagiarism. I've never even heard of anyone getting a C. Anything below a B- is discretionary at my school.
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I'm at UC Hastings, and I know someone in my section got an F in crim.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
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How do professors (specifically property) usually treat an exam (25% MC/ 75% essay)- where you likely where one of the only students to get all of the MC correct, and you got all of the essay "final answers" correct, but did a bad job with time management and pretty much had to briefly bullet point the majority of 1 of the 2 essays (yet actually nailed the conclusions to the various issues?)
I have been under the impression, that basically those who write a lot in the explanation section, yet form an incorrect conclusion, will do much better than a student who is right about the final conclusions but leaves out much of the explanation.
Any thoughts or first hand knowledge?
I have been under the impression, that basically those who write a lot in the explanation section, yet form an incorrect conclusion, will do much better than a student who is right about the final conclusions but leaves out much of the explanation.
Any thoughts or first hand knowledge?
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Lowest I ever heard of was a C- in professional responsibility. Same thing as an F because you need a C to graduate. He had to retake the class to get the credits but is still hit with the C- on his transcript.
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A friend of mine failed crim our first semester. Somehow she talked her way into a C- to pass, but...yeah. I don't know whether she genuinely didn't understand it, if she got killed by the curve (this prof is...interesting), or what. It was bizarre. As far as I know that's the only prof who ever fails people at my LS.OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:I'm at UC Hastings, and I know someone in my section got an F in crim.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
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I too know someone who failed crim, mainly because he was in our 1L class as a 2L. Also, there was a kid who failed legal research and writing first semester and had to retake it with my year and a friend of mine got a C- in app ad. The writing teacher I had was kind of a dick and would kill people for IMO minor things. Neither cheated.
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I went to UCH too. I heard of one F, but never found out who it was or his/her story (prof sent grade distribution around). I know of a few people who got D's. One of them sat in front of me on said exam and left crying on the second of 2 questions and wrote literally one sentence on the second question, so, even if she aced the first, she could have only have gotten 50%.OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:I'm at UC Hastings, and I know someone in my section got an F in crim.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
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Interesting is one way to describe her.Pretzel_Logic wrote:A friend of mine failed crim our first semester. Somehow she talked her way into a C- to pass, but...yeah. I don't know whether she genuinely didn't understand it, if she got killed by the curve (this prof is...interesting), or what. It was bizarre. As far as I know that's the only prof who ever fails people at my LS.OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:I'm at UC Hastings, and I know someone in my section got an F in crim.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
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You do know that half the time there is no right answer, right?wsw15 wrote:How do professors (specifically property) usually treat an exam (25% MC/ 75% essay)- where you likely where one of the only students to get all of the MC correct, and you got all of the essay "final answers" correct, but did a bad job with time management and pretty much had to briefly bullet point the majority of 1 of the 2 essays (yet actually nailed the conclusions to the various issues?)
I have been under the impression, that basically those who write a lot in the explanation section, yet form an incorrect conclusion, will do much better than a student who is right about the final conclusions but leaves out much of the explanation.
Any thoughts or first hand knowledge?
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HAHA. She knows her stuff but she has dat eccentricity.lbeezy wrote:Interesting is one way to describe her.Pretzel_Logic wrote:A friend of mine failed crim our first semester. Somehow she talked her way into a C- to pass, but...yeah. I don't know whether she genuinely didn't understand it, if she got killed by the curve (this prof is...interesting), or what. It was bizarre. As far as I know that's the only prof who ever fails people at my LS.OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:I'm at UC Hastings, and I know someone in my section got an F in crim.
The key to the F was not understanding what mens rea was, like not at all. Not a poor understanding, but literally no understanding, didn't know how to find it in a statute, didn't think it was part of the crime, and didn't bother to answer any part of the test relating to it.
That's literally the only F I've heard of.
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