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bio822 wrote:for me, the worst part about law school is the fact that you can bust your butt for 3 years and not find a job. I can suck up the monotonous work and the BS, but the whole idea that I could come out of all this sacrifice and have nothing to show for it is terrifying.
Shift this back to undergrad, high school, elementary school, BIRTH even, and you've hit the nail on the head.bio822 wrote:for me, the worst part about law school is the fact that you can bust your butt for 3 years and not find a job. I can suck up the monotonous work and the BS, but the whole idea that I could come out of all this sacrifice and have nothing to show for it is terrifying.
portaprokoss wrote:. . . but that's where I want to take the conversation. What's its worth? What value is there in the study of law. Globally, of course, we need lawyers and law in a society. But is the law even tangentially connected to the summum bonum? Is it a noble profession? Why should an individual pour their talent and energy into it?Flanker1067 wrote:I don't know if that quote has to do with what it's worth, so much as its character.
This is the forum for the law school students. We are aware we are screwed. Please go peddle your doom and gloom to the 0Ls.MTal wrote:For the majority below the T13, the odds of finding a job which will allow you to pay down your debt are vastly stacked against you.
Not if your on a scholly and only pay 10k a year for living expenses.MTal wrote:For the majority below the T13, the odds of finding a job which will allow you to pay down your debt are vastly stacked against you.
Yeah, I'm several spots outside the T14/13, whatever we're calling it these days, but with substantial scholly. It'll suck if I don't get the type of job I want, but it'll only have been opportunity costs. And those are low because it's not like I was a business major or engineer anyway.Extension_Cord wrote:Not if your on a scholly and only pay 10k a year for living expenses.MTal wrote:For the majority below the T13, the odds of finding a job which will allow you to pay down your debt are vastly stacked against you.
+1reformed calvinist wrote:But I agree, law school is just depressing, especially if you're already prone to depression. I hate the section system, and I can't wait until the people I'm with change every class, like college. That's by far the biggest downgrade.
One of our sections is very... close? It reminds me of Kindergarten. Everyone has a hallway buddy. But yeah, I can't wait to hear the opinions of people that are not the same five that talk in every single class every day.crossarmant wrote:+1reformed calvinist wrote:But I agree, law school is just depressing, especially if you're already prone to depression. I hate the section system, and I can't wait until the people I'm with change every class, like college. That's by far the biggest downgrade.
The section system annoys the piss out of me. The voices of all these same people in every single class every single day is gnawing at me. I'm really looking forward to switching it up next year.
We have one section at my school that wore the same color every Wednesday and called it color Wednesday. Super weiners...LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:One of our sections is very... close? It reminds me of Kindergarten. Everyone has a hallway buddy. But yeah, I can't wait to hear the opinions of people that are not the same five that talk in every single class every day.crossarmant wrote:+1reformed calvinist wrote:But I agree, law school is just depressing, especially if you're already prone to depression. I hate the section system, and I can't wait until the people I'm with change every class, like college. That's by far the biggest downgrade.
The section system annoys the piss out of me. The voices of all these same people in every single class every single day is gnawing at me. I'm really looking forward to switching it up next year.
Talking about law school problems does not mean that law students don't have "real problems" either. Take the stick out of your ass, and get off the soapbox.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
lol u mad LSAT?LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:Talking about law school problems does not mean that law students don't have "real problems" either. Take the stick out of your ass, and get off the soapbox.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
I'd rather be on a soapbox than crying about first world problems.LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:Talking about law school problems does not mean that law students don't have "real problems" either. Take the stick out of your ass, and get off the soapbox.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
Guchster wrote:
lol u mad LSAT?
Go to studentdoctor.net. Tell them u are premed and have a JD. Then tell those of them in med school that u totally feel their pain and see what they say to you.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
so you are doubling down on this? MD + residency = 5 months of law school?spleenworship wrote:Go to studentdoctor.net. Tell them u are premed and have a JD. Then tell them u totally feel their pain and see what they say to you.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
No. What I am saying is that they dont want to hear the opinion of a JD on MD training over there any more than we want the opinion of an MD on law school... For exactly the same reason: apples to oranges my friend. They are just too different to make comparisons validkwais wrote:so you are doubling down on this? MD + residency = 5 months of law school?spleenworship wrote:Go to studentdoctor.net. Tell them u are premed and have a JD. Then tell them u totally feel their pain and see what they say to you.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
fo real? Among the one million paths someone on this earth can take, top tier professional schools in different vocations in the US are that different? I have another theory. Someone with experience in hard schooling came into your thread and offered some general, "keep your heads up and get some perspective" advice, and it embarrassed people. Are you really telling me that a more reasonable response to Kimberly would not have been, "hey thanks for your post. It is interesting to hear from someone who did something different but that shares some important features. When you were in school, how did you get through some of the tougher semesters"? Instead we get "Hey Kimberly, since you never got cold called on Erie, sitting next to some aspie in Civ Pro, you will never ever know what it is we are going through" lulzspleenworship wrote:No. What I am saying is that they dont want to hear the opinion of a JD on MD training over there any more than we want the opinion of an MD on law school... For exactly the same reason: apples to oranges my friend. They are just too different to make comparisons validkwais wrote:so you are doubling down on this? MD + residency = 5 months of law school?spleenworship wrote:Go to studentdoctor.net. Tell them u are premed and have a JD. Then tell them u totally feel their pain and see what they say to you.kwais wrote:wow, this is TLS circle jerk at its finest. I am in my second semester too and I also am feeling complacent and frustrated at times, but holy shit you guys sound like the biggest bunch of whiners. Telling people with MDs that they can't comment on difficult academic experiences? Get over yourselves. It is just law school. Telling 0Ls, "now that I am a wise law student of 6 months, I can impart the wisdom that you will never succeed" lol. You must sound stupid to adults who know that life goes on and has real problems besides the law school blues. Plus, I promise you will all be back on here next year as 2Ls saying "1Ls shouldn't comment, they don't understand" and then in 3 years as lawyers "law students shouldn't comment, they don't understand"
Go see a fucking movie, go to the gym, take a break, earn a B if it saves your sanity, but please, get some fucking perspective you whiney brats.
I'll believe you after you have gone to studentdoctor.net and do as I suggested and have not gotten the exact same response (if not more forceful, they frequently ban people who disagree with them over there). Then I'll say "yeah, I guess we could've handled that better."kwais wrote:fo real? Among the one million paths someone on this earth can take, top tier professional schools in different vocations in the US are that different? I have another theory. Someone with experience in hard schooling came into your thread and offered some general, "keep your heads up and get some perspective" advice, and it embarrassed people. Are you really telling me that a more reasonable response to Kimberly would not have been, "hey thanks for your post. It is interesting to hear from someone who did something different but that shares some important features. When you were in school, how did you get through some of the tougher semesters"? Instead we get "Hey Kimberly, since you never got cold called on Erie, sitting next to some aspie in Civ Pro, you will never ever know what it is we are going through" lulzspleenworship wrote:No. What I am saying is that they dont want to hear the opinion of a JD on MD training over there any more than we want the opinion of an MD on law school... For exactly the same reason: apples to oranges my friend. They are just too different to make comparisons validkwais wrote:so you are doubling down on this? MD + residency = 5 months of law school?spleenworship wrote:
Go to studentdoctor.net. Tell them u are premed and have a JD. Then tell them u totally feel their pain and see what they say to you.