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What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:22 am
by shoeshine
What is the most famous 1L case?

Please vote and name any I have missed so I can add them.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:41 am
by dood
dudley stevens

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:44 am
by buckilaw
palsgraf

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:47 am
by flcath
Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:51 am
by TatteredDignity
flcath wrote:Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.
he didn't ask for the most infamous case

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:51 am
by romothesavior
I voted Hawkins. The Paper Chase made it more famous than the rest.

The carbolic smoke ball and barren cow cases also stuck with me for some reason.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:53 am
by shoeshine
Well I accidentally cleared the results when I added Regina v. Dudley and Stevens so vote again. :evil: I wont add anymore.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 am
by TatteredDignity
romothesavior wrote:I voted Hawkins. The Paper Chase made it more famous than the rest.

The carbolic smoke ball and barren cow cases also stuck with me for some reason.
funny that you vote hawkins, given that de geest doesn't even do that case. made me feel like i missed something in my legal education when i watched paper chase recently.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:34 am
by InnocuousDiatribe
I think they still teach the basics of Marbury v. Madison and McCullough v. Maryland in American history and government classes starting in Elementary or Middle school. At least, they did when I was a (edit--younger) kid.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:56 am
by Tanicius
flcath wrote:Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.
That's why I voted for it. Even Dudley is relevant when it's not even an American case.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 am
by Antilles Haven
flcath wrote:Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.
Looks like somebody never got to Burnham.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:24 am
by dabomb75
we didn't even do the hairy hands case in contracts.

I vote Erie just because I heard about it from before I had even started civ pro..."just wait until you get to Erie" type of comments from before day 1 of law school

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:59 am
by Cupidity
I vote Mottley. Up to the Supreme Court twice over a pair of Goddamned train tickets. How is that for vexatious litigation. When you get to Fed.Courts you find out that there is all kinds of other important stuff in the case.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:07 am
by LawMan20
Haven't heard of/read any of them besides Marbury.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:08 am
by Antilles Haven
LawMan20 wrote:Haven't heard of/read any of them besides Marbury.
How is that possible?

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:05 am
by LoyalRebel
International Shoe, of course.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:17 am
by Mce252
How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:25 am
by JusticeHarlan
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.
I'm guessing you didn't understand Erie; Marbury has nothing to do with Pierson, Hawkings, Palsgraf, etc.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:27 am
by 20130312
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.
We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:30 am
by Antilles Haven
InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.
We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.
Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:36 am
by 20130312
Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.
We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.
Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.
wut

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:40 am
by Cupidity
InGoodFaith wrote:
Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.
We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.
Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.
wut
He's right. You clearly haven't taken Fed.Courts.

Edit - The wut wasn't directed at Hunter's Lessee, was it?

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:41 am
by Antilles Haven
InGoodFaith wrote:wut
Let me help you:
Thread Title wrote:most famous 1L case
InGoodFaith wrote:as a 0L

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:41 am
by DocHawkeye
Hamer v. Sidway or Garrat v. Dailey?

Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:50 am
by 20130312
Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:wut
Let me help you:
Thread Title wrote:most famous 1L case
InGoodFaith wrote:as a 0L
So the case can no longer be described as a 1L case because the person referencing it isn't a 1L?