Failing Out Forum

[TempleU555555]

Exactly how does one "fail out?"

Assume the curve is a 3.0... is this possible?


Also, if this happens, can you re-apply and start over, or are you doomed?

Just a hypotheticall..

thanks!

[WSJ_Law]

Miss more than the maximum amount of unexcused absences per your syllabus or school handbook.

Make Fs on your exams.

Fail to turn in LRW assignments.

htfh

[TempleU555555]

I'm saying, if you actually try, to a reasonable extent...

Is it possible to fail out (meaning less than C's)?

[094320]

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[TempleU555555]

Depends entirely on the institution you attend and the curve.

Also, at that point, I'm not sure starting over and re-trying would be a good idea.

I'm at Temple with a 3.0 curve.

Need 2.0 to stay alive and keep scholly..

[094320]

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[TempleU555555]

Depends entirely on the institution you attend and the curve.

Also, at that point, I'm not sure starting over and re-trying would be a good idea.

I'm at Temple with a 3.0 curve.

Need 2.0 to stay alive and keep scholly..

"3.0" curve doesn't say enough. We don't know if the distribution is normal. At my law school, failing grades aren't even part of the curve, just discretionary.

C- and D, etc. aren't part of the curve -- they're strictly discretionary.

In the handbook, they're listed as 0% - 5% of the curve. But in speaking with professors, they're discretionary and discouraged.

[094320]

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[TempleU555555]

So, it's possible if you do a really bad job, but unlikely.

yea, i just dont feel like i've been doing nearly enough this semester and i'm getting worried/neurotic..

[Mick Haller]

If you study hard, it's extremely unlikely you'll fail out of law school. I've never heard of anyone failing out of my law school (lower T1). Some cutthroat TTTs give bad students the boot, but only because it's necessary for them to maintain accreditation. I highly doubt Temple flunks very many.

[Veyron]

At Penn, if you sit for the tests and write something, you'll get at least a C. The only way to fail out would be to not turn in assignments for LRW or papers for paper classes.

[TempleU555555]

thanks for confidence boost!

[Veyron]

thanks for confidence boost!

Hey, I said you'd get a C, not a job!

[shock259]

Yeah. Failing out shouldn't be your concern. Not to be a dick, but I would be concerned about getting a job if you are at the bottom of your class at a T2.

[TempleU555555]

Yeah. Failing out shouldn't be your concern. Not to be a dick, but I would be concerned about getting a job if you are at the bottom of your class at a T2.

No, I know, and I appreciate that advice. This semeseter, I've had some personal family problems that have really distracted me (that were completely unavoidable), and I've just been distracted in class, etc.

Next semester, I know I can buck up and do well. I'm just hoping to stay alive.

My (near full-ride) scholarship is contingent on maintaining a 2.0, that's what I'm really worried about.

I really kicked it into gear about 3 weeks ago, with 4 weeks left, so at least I've been in the game for 7 weeks, which is really almost half a semester, so I'm okay, just getting neurotic as exams arrive...

Anyway... thanks!

[Mick Haller]

I've literally studied for 4 days for an exam and still gotten an A. Just study hard the next few weeks.

[WSJ_Law]

what a TTT question/thread. OP seems dumb and is fucked if he tries or not

[Mick Haller]

what a TTT question/thread. OP seems dumb and is fucked if he tries or not

Op isn't dumb... Sounds like a 1L with anxiety. I had irrational fears at that time too.

[TempleU555555]

what a TTT question/thread. OP seems dumb and is fucked if he tries or not

Op isn't dumb... Sounds like a 1L with anxiety. I had irrational fears at that time too.

thanks for the defense.

i'm worried the fears are rationall...

[071816]

In this thread OP tries to get advice on how not to be the worst. That's the right attitude!

[RodneyBoonfield]

Hopefully WSJ feels better about him/herself now

[mrloblaw]

You shouldn't worry about failing. You should worry about passing near the bottom and being completely unemployable. I'm not sure if you're aware, but there's this economy thing going on.

[3L Student]

Yeah, like 1/4 of my 1L class was put on "academic probation" after the first semester (It was like less a C or D average). At that school, if you continued to remain under academic probation, you could be asked to leave. But most were able to pull it up. I think somewhere around 5-10 dropped out of our 200 person first-year class. I'm not sure if they left voluntarily or were forced out.

[Veyron]

Yeah, like 1/4 of my 1L class was put on "academic probation" after the first semester (It was like less a C or D average). At that school, if you continued to remain under academic probation, you could be asked to leave. But most were able to pull it up. I think somewhere around 5-10 dropped out of our 200 person first-year class. I'm not sure if they left voluntarily or were forced out.

Protip, this only happens at bad schools.

[TempleU555555]

Yeah, like 1/4 of my 1L class was put on "academic probation" after the first semester (It was like less a C or D average). At that school, if you continued to remain under academic probation, you could be asked to leave. But most were able to pull it up. I think somewhere around 5-10 dropped out of our 200 person first-year class. I'm not sure if they left voluntarily or were forced out.

What school are you at, if you don't mind disclosing (or maybe respond by PM?)

thanks!