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1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:50 pm
by wallawhite1987
This poll only includes homework outside of class.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:55 pm
by Grizz
ITT: pissing contest

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:44 pm
by target

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:25 pm
by wallawhite1987
Grizz wrote:ITT: pissing contest
The exact opposite

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:42 pm
by drmguy
The "more than 45 hours" option doesn't do 160+ hours justice.

I think for accuracy there should be 0-168 in 1 hour increments.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:45 pm
by NYC Law
How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:46 pm
by FeelTheHeat
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
Certainly don't seem it.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:51 pm
by wallawhite1987
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
I do much more than 15 hours. It's not that I'm not grasping the subject matter quick but that I feel like since this is law school I should have no free time. I guess I need to stop thinking like that.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:53 pm
by NYC Law
wallawhite1987 wrote:
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
I do much more than 15 hours. It's not that I'm not grasping the subject matter quick but that I feel like since this is law school I should have no free time. I guess I need to stop thinking like that.
But I mean, what do you do? Just keep re-reading the same thing? I don't even feel like we're far enough in to start doing many practice problems since most essays involve multiple issues that are later to come.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:54 pm
by mrloblaw
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
Gunners gonna gun.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:56 pm
by wallawhite1987
NYC Law wrote:
wallawhite1987 wrote:
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
I do much more than 15 hours. It's not that I'm not grasping the subject matter quick but that I feel like since this is law school I should have no free time. I guess I need to stop thinking like that.
But I mean, what do you do? Just keep re-reading the same thing? I don't even feel like we're far enough in to start doing many practice problems since most essays involve multiple issues that are later to come.
I basically go through everything with a fine-tooth comb. I also have a couple supplements that I've been using even if I get the material completely. Like I said, I'm probably going to stop doing this much, because it's a unnecessary and even a little neurotic. I still think >15 hrs. is a little low, though.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:40 pm
by Extension_Cord
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
After the 4th week, you get a lot more work to do. Im now in my 6th week. Especially with LRW. First 3 weeks I spent maybe an hour total on LRW, now its my most time consuming class and the others haven't eased any (contracts actually picked up as did torts).

I spend atleast 30 hours a week and thats NOT including supplemental assignments/reading/or review.

Con Law = atleast 10 hours a week (100 pages a week + briefing + outlining).
Contracts = around 6 hours a week (60 pages...)
Torts = around 5 hours a week (50 pages...)
LRW = Atleast 10 hours a week (3 hours reading and doing basic assignments, 7 on writing/research/weekly assignments)(When the first memo was due I spent around 25 hours that week)

Im not an over acheiver or a slow reader, this stuff just takes time.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:41 pm
by shoeshine
>30 hrs = your doing it wrong

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:43 pm
by Extension_Cord
shoeshine wrote:>30 hrs = your doing it wrong
How do you manage to read and brief 300 pages and do LRW assignments in less than 30 hours? LRW assignments are brutal at my school.

I think 30 hours a week is the minimal they actually expect you to work. I mean its the equivelent of a 45 hour a week job... Come on, everyone knows law school is more demanding than a normal 8-5 job.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:44 pm
by target
Extension_Cord wrote:
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
After the 4th week, you get a lot more work to do. Im now in my 6th week. Especially with LRW. First 3 weeks I spent maybe an hour total on LRW, now its my most time consuming class and the others haven't eased any (contracts actually picked up as did torts).

I spend atleast 30 hours a week and thats NOT including supplemental assignments/reading/or review.

Con Law = atleast 10 hours a week (100 pages a week + briefing + outlining).
Contracts = around 6 hours a week (60 pages...)
Torts = around 5 hours a week (50 pages...)
LRW = Atleast 10 hours a week (3 hours reading and doing basic assignments, 7 on writing/research/weekly assignments)(When the first memo was due I spent around 25 hours that week)

Im not an over acheiver or a slow reader, this stuff just takes time.
What do you do in LWR that you spend more time in it than your two doctrinal classes? Aren't you a 1L as well?

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:46 pm
by Extension_Cord
target wrote:
Extension_Cord wrote:
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
After the 4th week, you get a lot more work to do. Im now in my 6th week. Especially with LRW. First 3 weeks I spent maybe an hour total on LRW, now its my most time consuming class and the others haven't eased any (contracts actually picked up as did torts).

I spend atleast 30 hours a week and thats NOT including supplemental assignments/reading/or review.

Con Law = atleast 10 hours a week (100 pages a week + briefing + outlining).
Contracts = around 6 hours a week (60 pages...)
Torts = around 5 hours a week (50 pages...)
LRW = Atleast 10 hours a week (3 hours reading and doing basic assignments, 7 on writing/research/weekly assignments)(When the first memo was due I spent around 25 hours that week)

Im not an over acheiver or a slow reader, this stuff just takes time.
What do you do in LWR that you spend more time in it than your two doctrinal classes? Aren't you a 1L as well?
Yes, Im a 1L.

The 11 page memo with 25 cases to be reviewed was killer. You have to write it in a specific format. Its not like other writing. We are learning research now and have workbook assignments.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:54 pm
by shoeshine
Extension_Cord wrote:
shoeshine wrote:>30 hrs = your doing it wrong
How do you manage to read and brief 300 pages and do LRW assignments in less than 30 hours? LRW assignments are brutal at my school.

I think 30 hours a week is the minimal they actually expect you to work. I mean its the equivelent of a 45 hour a week job... Come on, everyone knows law school is more demanding than a normal 8-5 job.
LRW = ungraded at my school
I do the minimum and get help from the TA in that class.

Reading and briefing should not take more than three hours per day. I have about 50-60 pages of case book reading in my non-LRW classes. That usually takes about 3 hours with briefing every case.

I outline and review on the weekend for about 2-3 hours.

I am averaging 18-22 hours of homework per week. It will probably bump up during finals but over 30 would be excessive now.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:09 am
by Extension_Cord
LRW is graded at my school.

You have a combined total of 50-60 pages a week per class or total?

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:18 am
by MrPapagiorgio
Grizz wrote:ITT: pissing contest

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:27 am
by shoeshine
Extension_Cord wrote:LRW is graded at my school.

You have a combined total of 50-60 pages a week per class or total?
Per day in all my non-LRW classes combined.

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:10 pm
by wallawhite1987
shoeshine wrote:
Extension_Cord wrote:
shoeshine wrote:>30 hrs = your doing it wrong
How do you manage to read and brief 300 pages and do LRW assignments in less than 30 hours? LRW assignments are brutal at my school.

I think 30 hours a week is the minimal they actually expect you to work. I mean its the equivelent of a 45 hour a week job... Come on, everyone knows law school is more demanding than a normal 8-5 job.
LRW = ungraded at my school
I do the minimum and get help from the TA in that class.

Reading and briefing should not take more than three hours per day. I have about 50-60 pages of case book reading in my non-LRW classes. That usually takes about 3 hours with briefing every case.

I outline and review on the weekend for about 2-3 hours.

I am averaging 18-22 hours of homework per week. It will probably bump up during finals but over 30 would be excessive now.
You're outlining already?

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:53 pm
by typ3
I figure I spend 1-3 hours per night during the week per class.



Monday Night 3-5
Tuesday 3-5 hours.
Wednesday 3-5.
Thursday 1-2 (unless there is a LAWR assignment due) and I'm out for law night until about 2 am at the bars with classmates.
Friday - 0 Out drinking until 2 am unless I am sick or have a good excuse.
Saturday - 1-2 (maybe during college football) Up by 7 am to tailgate. Then out at night until 2 am.
Sunday - 3-4 hours Recover, relax, do some house cleaning / laundry,

I would say about 12-15 hours a week is currently being spent on homework.

All of my outlines are up to date by pulling the BLL through one note. I don't brief. I used googled / canned briefs for socratic. Write my own synthesis of BLL from the cases and any important forks in one note for my outline. I feel like this affords me time to focus on the important stuff for the exam and not waste time notating and memorizing random stuff daily for socratic. I spend most of my time in class on TLS / zoning out when someone is being grilled on useless facts / facebook chatting with classmates. I use the recommended TLS supplements and normally I come to class feeling like I could answer nearly ever hypo if I had to write answers-- if I was the one on the hotseat I'm sure I wouldn't due to the pressure.

Torts varies in reading from 15-30 pages a week.
Contracts is normally 50 pages.
Property is supposed to be 50 pages a week but we are way behind and averaging like 25 a week "to build concepts".

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:04 am
by agathos
wallawhite1987 wrote:
NYC Law wrote:
wallawhite1987 wrote:
NYC Law wrote:How is it even possible to spend >15 hours this early?
The intro concepts aren't that hard...
I do much more than 15 hours. It's not that I'm not grasping the subject matter quick but that I feel like since this is law school I should have no free time. I guess I need to stop thinking like that.
But I mean, what do you do? Just keep re-reading the same thing? I don't even feel like we're far enough in to start doing many practice problems since most essays involve multiple issues that are later to come.
I basically go through everything with a fine-tooth comb. I also have a couple supplements that I've been using even if I get the material completely. Like I said, I'm probably going to stop doing this much, because it's a unnecessary and even a little neurotic. I still think >15 hrs. is a little low, though.
do your outline ... if you have nothing else can do ..redo your outline again ...

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:08 am
by agathos
shoeshine wrote:
Extension_Cord wrote:
shoeshine wrote:>30 hrs = your doing it wrong
How do you manage to read and brief 300 pages and do LRW assignments in less than 30 hours? LRW assignments are brutal at my school.

I think 30 hours a week is the minimal they actually expect you to work. I mean its the equivelent of a 45 hour a week job... Come on, everyone knows law school is more demanding than a normal 8-5 job.
LRW = ungraded at my school
I do the minimum and get help from the TA in that class.

Reading and briefing should not take more than three hours per day. I have about 50-60 pages of case book reading in my non-LRW classes. That usually takes about 3 hours with briefing every case.

I outline and review on the weekend for about 2-3 hours.

I am averaging 18-22 hours of homework per week. It will probably bump up during finals but over 30 would be excessive now.
unfortunately , it does be graded at my school...
I hate that..
totally waste my time to figure out what type writting style the TA like ..

Re: 1Ls How much time are you spending on homework (POLL)

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:10 am
by agathos
Extension_Cord wrote:LRW is graded at my school.

You have a combined total of 50-60 pages a week per class or total?
LRW ,I have 100 pages need to read and brief...last week ..
In this week it looks like 80 pages..