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*note* I do not go to Cornell

Basically one of my professors graduated Cornell Law a few years ago (although he is young, he was a very published PHD before law school, still kind of an anomaly being only out of Law School for a few years.)

This is his first year teaching. I have him for Civ-Pro, and he is doing the class differently from other Civ-Pro sections. I found out his Civ-Pro professor from Cornell was Professor Barbara J. Holden-Smith.

I was wondering if Cornell had an outline database or exam database that someone could quickly check for her civ-pro class. Maybe my thought process is ridiculous, but being as she did not teach him that many years ago, I could see him thinking back to his law school days when coming up with exam questions ect.


Disclaimer: if this request breaks any TLS or Cornell rules, please disregard it. My school openly allows outline/exam sharing, the library even having exams on reserve. I wasn't sure exactly where to post this.

btw, if Cornell doesn't have a exam/outline database, doesn't allow sharing exams/outlines, or you think this is a ridiculous request, by all means please tell me.

Also our professor is using a Glannon Casebook, so I guess all bets are off if Prof Holden doesn't use him.

WaitlistedSadPanda wrote:btw, if Cornell doesn't have a exam/outline database, doesn't allow sharing exams/outlines, or you think this is a ridiculous request, by all means please tell me.

Also our professor is using a Glannon Casebook, so I guess all bets are off if Prof Holden doesn't use him.

Don't know about if she has exams (she may but I don't yet know how to access them). However, she does NOT use the Glannon.

PinkCow wrote:

WaitlistedSadPanda wrote:btw, if Cornell doesn't have a exam/outline database, doesn't allow sharing exams/outlines, or you think this is a ridiculous request, by all means please tell me.

Also our professor is using a Glannon Casebook, so I guess all bets are off if Prof Holden doesn't use him.

Don't know about if she has exams (she may but I don't yet know how to access them). However, she does NOT use the Glannon.

Thanks for the response! I'm new to this law school business, so maybe Civ Pro books parallel each other pretty strongly. Although I'm guessing if he didn't go with a similar book he might just be trying to do his complete own thing.

She does 100% multiple choice closed book exams and doesn't use the Glannon.

mths wrote:She does 100% multiple choice closed book exams and doesn't use the Glannon.

Dear God. So I better know what Rule 12(h)(2)(A) is?

mths wrote:She does 100% multiple choice closed book exams and doesn't use the Glannon.

This was not my experience (though I had her for second half). Her class was half m/c (very difficult) and a long essay at the end. I believe we could bring our rule book but nothing else. She did not put any tests on the outline bank, but gave us a very unhelpful example question/sample answer before the exam. It is likely that your prof. had more than 1 Civ. Pro. professor at Cornell, since there are 2 halfs to the class.

mths wrote:She does 100% multiple choice closed book exams and doesn't use the Glannon.

50% multiple choice , 50% gigantic issue spotter.

KMaine wrote:

mths wrote:She does 100% multiple choice closed book exams and doesn't use the Glannon.

This was not my experience (though I had her for second half). Her class was half m/c (very difficult) and a long essay at the end. I believe we could bring our rule book but nothing else. She did not put any tests on the outline bank, but gave us a very unhelpful example question/sample answer before the exam. It is likely that your prof. had more than 1 Civ. Pro. professor at Cornell, since there are 2 halfs to the class.

This is also mostly accurate. Cornell does Civ Pro in two semesters. Fall is the rules and the Erie doctrine, Spring is res judicata and jurisdiction. Last year, she taught the Spring half. The exam was entirely closed book. She provided us with a printed-out packet of whichever rules and sections of 28 USC she thought we'd find necessary (KMaine likely had her in Spring 2010, when, rumor has it, she let them bring in a rules book and everyone wrote notes in it, and she got pissed when she found out).

It's not an exam I'd ever want to study for, or sit through, ever again.

Also, I'm not sure she has any exams in the archive anyway. Sorry OP.