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YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:50 pm
by brickman
So I have this as a required supplement for CivPro, but is there a better FRCP that I should I look into or are they all pretty much the same. I have Yeazell's casebook too (i've heard it's not very good), so that would maybe affect suggestions.

Thoughts?

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by trey
This is the greatest supplement to the FRCP. Really helped me a lot.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... ps-sellers

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:57 pm
by 5ky
brickman wrote:So I have this as a required supplement for CivPro, but is there a better FRCP that I should I look into or are they all pretty much the same. I have Yeazell's casebook too (i've heard it's not very good), so that would maybe affect suggestions.

Thoughts?
The FRCP supplement that is required is a copy of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. It is not a supplement like you are thinking. You should get the copy of the Fed. R. Civ. Pro. that your professor recommends, if only because you will have the same page numbers, etc., as the syllabus. The Fed. R. Civ. Pro. will not "change" in a different supplement.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:00 pm
by brickman
5ky wrote:
brickman wrote:So I have this as a required supplement for CivPro, but is there a better FRCP that I should I look into or are they all pretty much the same. I have Yeazell's casebook too (i've heard it's not very good), so that would maybe affect suggestions.

Thoughts?
The FRCP supplement that is required is a copy of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. It is not a supplement like you are thinking. You should get the copy of the Fed. R. Civ. Pro. that your professor recommends, if only because you will have the same page numbers, etc., as the syllabus. The Fed. R. Civ. Pro. will not "change" in a different supplement.
I wasn't thinking of it as a supplement like an E&E or anything like that, if that is what you thought I meant. Is the above:

http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... ps-sellers

a good choice as a supplement to understand the FRCP?

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:08 pm
by 5ky
I was answering your original question, which asked whether you should look into a different "FRCP." Perhaps you should clarify your question.

As for that book, I've never heard of it nor heard of anyone using it. I don't think it is necessary.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:27 pm
by goodolgil
5ky wrote:I was answering your original question, which asked whether you should look into a different "FRCP." Perhaps you should clarify your question.

As for that book, I've never heard of it nor heard of anyone using it. I don't think it is necessary.
The supplement is keyed to the casebook in most cases. Thus, the FRCP Yezell supplement is keyed to the Civil Procedure casebook Yeazell wrote that I'm presuming you've also been assigned. This can be helpful for when the casebook refers you to the supplement (e.g. you're reading a case on Discovery and the casebook tells you to turn to page so-and-so in the supplement).

Anyway, all you really need (or at least all I needed) is a copy of the FRCP for the class. You could probably even get away with using the little pocket-sized versions Westlaw and Lexis give away. I ended up using the Yeazell book even though my class used the Friedenthal casebook (bought it by mistake). Didn't matter at all.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:28 pm
by brickman
thanks all, v. helpful.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:34 pm
by tww909
brickman wrote:thanks all, v. helpful.
i would hold off on buying any supplements until you've had a chance to see how you're doing with the material. i know lots of people who have a pile of 1L supplements they never used.

i got by just fine with the lexis FRCP pocket sized thing they give away. a buddy of mine had a book sized version and said it was easier to read, but wutevs.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:12 pm
by Geist13
oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:39 pm
by brickman
Geist13 wrote:oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.
just based on the casebook review, any good substantive supplement help you through civpro?

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:43 pm
by Grizz
brickman wrote:
Geist13 wrote:oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.
just based on the casebook review, any good substantive supplement help you through civpro?
A lot of people like the Glannon E&E. But it all depends on the way you prof teaches the class. If I had used Glannon, I would have been sunk. See if there's a copy in the library before you get it.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:05 pm
by eandy
Get the FRCP book your prof assigns. My prof got angry when people brought in the pocket sized one--they do not have all of the same things.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:06 pm
by Geist13
brickman wrote:
Geist13 wrote:oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.
just based on the casebook review, any good substantive supplement help you through civpro?
My civ pro mantra: always Freer; never Glannon

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:06 pm
by eandy
Geist13 wrote:
brickman wrote:
Geist13 wrote:oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.
just based on the casebook review, any good substantive supplement help you through civpro?
My civ pro mantra: always Freer; never Glannon
The Freer one is great. Make sure you get second edition(the new one) because a lot of stuff has changed since the 2005 one.
edit: quote fail

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:23 pm
by jkay
Yeazell casebook, you say? Here's something you might find useful: http://www.macabelegal.com/yeazell.html

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:27 pm
by dailygrind
eandy wrote:
Geist13 wrote:
brickman wrote:
Geist13 wrote:oh goodness there's a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about in this thread. OP, what you have been assigned is the FRCP rule book which is attached to the Yeazell casebook; it's just all the rules of civil procedure, plus whatever new cases have come out since the most recent edition of the casebook. I would suggest getting the Yeazell rule book because it has a large font and has wide margins. Unlike some other FRCP rule books I've seen there's lots of space for margin notes. The size of the book makes it easier to navigate and use in general. Unlike the free pocket size westlaw version they will have at your school, the pages are labeled in the corner which makes flipping through to the correct rule easier.

You should get it. However, I will confirm what you have heard about the Yeazell casebook; it's fucking atrocious.
just based on the casebook review, any good substantive supplement help you through civpro?
My civ pro mantra: always Freer; never Glannon
The Freer one is great. Make sure you get second edition(the new one) because a lot of stuff has changed since the 2005 one.
edit: quote fail
His barbri lecture is also great for bringing the rules together. I credit that man with teaching me anything I know about civ pro.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:46 pm
by brickman
I've seen some suggestions for this:

http://www.amazon.com/Civil-Procedure-H ... BXQUTO8PNJ

worth it or we goin' Freer all the way to the bank?

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:54 pm
by 5ky
brickman wrote:I've seen some suggestions for this:

http://www.amazon.com/Civil-Procedure-H ... BXQUTO8PNJ

worth it or we goin' Freer all the way to the bank?
I swore by Friedenthal, but I imagine either one is fine.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:49 pm
by brickman
Ha! Just got moved to a new section! good thing i didn't buy the book already.

Field's casebook, here i come.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:20 am
by missinglink
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Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:40 pm
by DallasCowboy
jkay wrote:Yeazell casebook, you say? Here's something you might find useful: http://www.macabelegal.com/yeazell.html

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:28 pm
by Manash
I'm in the same boat as OP. Only thing is my course requires the 2011 FRCP. Possible to get away with an earlier edition? I don't see any used 2011 versions floating around.

Re: YEAZELL's FRCP

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:30 pm
by Cupidity
Manash wrote:I'm in the same boat as OP. Only thing is my course requires the 2011 FRCP. Possible to get away with an earlier edition? I don't see any used 2011 versions floating around.
No.

Edit- Probably won't matter, don't buy it either way.