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The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:15 am
by lawgod
Post what you did and we'll tell you if your classmates called you Gunner when you weren't listening.

I'll start:
I wore business every day. (That's what I'd been wearing for 10 years, I didn't realize it was gunnish.)
I asked questions fairly often. Probably almost once a day average for all classes combined. (And in one class almost every class.)
I spoke to the professor after class probably 1/3-1/5 of all classes combined.

But, I didn't volunteer information in class very often.
And I always emailed notes if someone sent an email out for them.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:20 am
by 09042014
lawgod wrote:Post what you did and we'll tell you if your classmates called you Gunner when you weren't listening.

I'll start:
I wore business every day. (That's what I'd been wearing for 10 years, I didn't realize it was gunnish.)
I asked questions fairly often. Probably almost once a day average for all classes combined. (And in one class almost every class.)
I spoke to the professor after class probably 1/3-1/5 of all classes combined.

But, I didn't volunteer information in class very often.
And I always emailed notes if someone sent an email out for them.
Were your questions about something you didn't understand?

Why are you wearing business. Didn't you see everyone else not doing that?

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:21 am
by lawgod
Desert Fox wrote:
lawgod wrote:Post what you did and we'll tell you if your classmates called you Gunner when you weren't listening.

I'll start:
I wore business every day. (That's what I'd been wearing for 10 years, I didn't realize it was gunnish.)
I asked questions fairly often. Probably almost once a day average for all classes combined. (And in one class almost every class.)
I spoke to the professor after class probably 1/3-1/5 of all classes combined.

But, I didn't volunteer information in class very often.
And I always emailed notes if someone sent an email out for them.
Were your questions about something you didn't understand?

Why are you wearing business. Didn't you see everyone else not doing that?
The questions were because I didn't understand.
That's the way I dress. I wear business on Sunday also. It's hard to explain.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:23 am
by 09042014
Asking legit questions is not gunnerish. Asking stupid hypos, or asking questions that are poor attempt to show off is gunnerish.

So probably not a gunner.

Unless you were the dude who wore suits to finals. That guy, well, LOL.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:25 am
by lawgod
Desert Fox wrote:Asking legit questions is not gunnerish. Asking stupid hypos, or asking questions that are poor attempt to show off is gunnerish.

So probably not a gunner.

Unless you were the dude who wore suits to finals. That guy, well, LOL.
I wasn't that dude. I wore the same business casual I always wear.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:35 am
by Hadlendale
I always thought of gunners as those who are always extremely prepared, have everything briefed, have meticulous notes, spend constant time in the library. Basically those people that treated law school as more than a full time job.

We have plenty of frequent participants who I wouldn't call gunners.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:52 am
by Kilpatrick
If you asked a question EVERY day you're a gunner.

Also big difference between business and business casual. I read the first post to mean you were wearing a suit every day

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:55 am
by luthersloan
I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday. Not sure if that fact standing alone makes one a gunner.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:28 am
by studebaker07
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday. Not sure if that fact standing alone makes one a gunner.
Standing alone, probably not a sufficient characteristic to indicate that you are a gunner. It is very unusual though and is probably a faux-pas of some kind.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:02 am
by Moxie
Hadlendale wrote:I always thought of gunners as those who are always extremely prepared, have everything briefed, have meticulous notes, spend constant time in the library. Basically those people that treated law school as more than a full time job.

We have plenty of frequent participants who I wouldn't call gunners.
Then your definition of gunners is not the generally accepted one on TLS.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:09 am
by thecilent
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday. Not sure if that fact standing alone makes one a gunner.
You wore a suit to class every day? Wtf is wrong with you

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:16 am
by kaiser
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday. Not sure if that fact standing alone makes one a gunner.
Doesn't make you a gunner per se, but it obviously made you stand out in a very odd way. And in a profession where your reputation amongst your peers is everything, it is poor form to make yourself stand out as "that guy".

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:19 am
by luthersloan
That is an entirely rationally critique I suppose. It is irrelevant at this point however as the damage (if any) is done.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:45 am
by gwuorbust
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday.
the fuck ?

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:56 am
by luthersloan
wow, tough crowd.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:07 pm
by Emma.
luthersloan wrote:wow, tough crowd.
Not sure if serious, but if so, I'd make a change for next year. Redeem yourself, man!

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:11 pm
by luthersloan
Somehow I doubt that would change anything at this point, besides I don't own any other clothes.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:19 pm
by flcath
gwuorbust wrote:
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday.
the fuck ?
Yeah, what the fuck is going on here?

Have you people (the ones ITT not posting about how they wore suits to class) seen this shit IRL?

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:40 pm
by dailygrind
flcath wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday.
the fuck ?
Yeah, what the fuck is going on here?

Have you people (the ones ITT not posting about how they wore suits to class) seen this shit IRL?
There's one dude who wears what could pass as business casual on a consistent basis, but I think that's just how he dresses, period. Can't hate on a guy trying to style it up. Otherwise, no. Hats and sweats abound.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:01 pm
by gwuorbust
there is one girl here who dresses in female suits often, but she works at the DAs like 20 hours per week so that doesn't count. everyone else dresses normally. and if anyone wore suits everyday to class "just cause" I know my classmates would take so much shit behind their back. HTH.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:11 pm
by Emma.
flcath wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday.
the fuck ?
Yeah, what the fuck is going on here?

Have you people (the ones ITT not posting about how they wore suits to class) seen this shit IRL?
One dude at our school rocks a suit almost every day, but they are usually vintage suits and I'm pretty sure it is ironic.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:48 pm
by Hadlendale
Moxie wrote:
Hadlendale wrote:I always thought of gunners as those who are always extremely prepared, have everything briefed, have meticulous notes, spend constant time in the library. Basically those people that treated law school as more than a full time job.

We have plenty of frequent participants who I wouldn't call gunners.
Then your definition of gunners is not the generally accepted one on TLS.
Why is class participation the biggest factor in gunning? I know some people that participate a lot in class, but they have mediocre grades because they honestly don't care enough to study much outside of class...

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:53 pm
by flcath
Emma. wrote:
flcath wrote:
gwuorbust wrote:
luthersloan wrote:I wore a suit to finals, and to class everyday.
the fuck ?
Yeah, what the fuck is going on here?

Have you people (the ones ITT not posting about how they wore suits to class) seen this shit IRL?
One dude at our school rocks a suit almost every day, but they are usually vintage suits and I'm pretty sure it is ironic.
That shows true commitment to the joke.

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:18 pm
by Kilpatrick
Hadlendale wrote:
Moxie wrote:
Hadlendale wrote:I always thought of gunners as those who are always extremely prepared, have everything briefed, have meticulous notes, spend constant time in the library. Basically those people that treated law school as more than a full time job.

We have plenty of frequent participants who I wouldn't call gunners.
Then your definition of gunners is not the generally accepted one on TLS.
Why is class participation the biggest factor in gunning? I know some people that participate a lot in class, but they have mediocre grades because they honestly don't care enough to study much outside of class...
I think there are two definitions of gunner that people throw around. One is someone who works insanely hard to do well. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't care if someone outlined Getting to Maybe over their 0L summer, as long as I don't have to hear them talk about it.

When I use the word gunner though I'm talking about people who never shut up in class. People who raise their hand multiple times a day, pose stupid time-wasting hypos to the professor, monopolize after class time and office hours with stupid questions. These people usually do end up with mediocre grades, and they deserve it because they are horrible people.

So, at least in my mind, being a gunner and doing well don't go hand in hand and, in fact, are usually mutually exclusive

Re: The "Am I a Gunner?" thread.

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:34 pm
by Verity
In UG, I used to hate idiots who showed up for class still practically in their pajamas, for both morning and especially afternoon classes.

So, the ceiling is established (no business formal). What's the floor?