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Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:13 pm
by DavisPoster
Ok, I'm having a hell of a time. I'm on the USPTO website and all I want to do is register to take the Patent Bar. The "Exam Registration" page doesn't seem to link me to anywhere I can actually register. Anyone know where I can go to register?

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:06 pm
by Black-Blue
You can only register by snail mail. You have to send in the forms on their site.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:40 pm
by Big Shrimpin
Black-Blue wrote:You can only register by snail mail. You have to send in the forms on their site.

CR. Turnaround time is usually a few days.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:47 pm
by 09042014
Anyone know the turn around between when you send it in and the absolute earliest you get results back? I might try to get it done before Loyola but that's in late July. It may be too late.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:58 pm
by boozehound
Desert Fox wrote:Anyone know the turn around between when you send it in and the absolute earliest you get results back? I might try to get it done before Loyola but that's in late July. It may be too late.
It took me 3 weeks to get approved to take the test after filing my application. It took 2 weeks for my registration to be processed after I passed the test.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:16 pm
by Big Shrimpin
boozehound wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Anyone know the turn around between when you send it in and the absolute earliest you get results back? I might try to get it done before Loyola but that's in late July. It may be too late.
It took me 3 weeks to get approved to take the test after filing my application. It took 2 weeks for my registration to be processed after I passed the test.
CR. Although I've heard of quicker turnaround times between sending the application materials and being approved. Also, I'm pretty sure it took them forever to send me my certificate and registration number (I think you can technically find your reg number online through the USPTO search function...so long as your time on the "list" before they actually approve you has expired...I forget the rule on this, but after you pass your name is put on a "list" for a certain amount of time so that anyone can bring C&F issues to the PTOs attention...like that happens very often :? ).

If you get the ball rolling now, I think you'd have enough time between finals and Loyola to sit for and pass the exam. A few months of casual studying should get the job done, even if you work full time. I'm not sure if you're allowed to list it on the resume before you've been admitted, but you might want to check with your CDO about that. I had already taken it before LS (wanted to get it out of the way), so I'm not sure about the rule. I think it's a HUGE help in certain aspects of OCI, especially for the IP boutiques.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:21 pm
by 09042014
Big Shrimpin wrote:
boozehound wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Anyone know the turn around between when you send it in and the absolute earliest you get results back? I might try to get it done before Loyola but that's in late July. It may be too late.
It took me 3 weeks to get approved to take the test after filing my application. It took 2 weeks for my registration to be processed after I passed the test.
CR. Although I've heard of quicker turnaround times between sending the application materials and being approved. Also, I'm pretty sure it took them forever to send me my certificate and registration number (I think you can technically find your reg number online through the USPTO search function...so long as your time on the "list" before they actually approve you has expired...I forget the rule on this, but after you pass your name is put on a "list" for a certain amount of time so that anyone can bring C&F issues to the PTOs attention...like that happens very often :? ).

If you get the ball rolling now, I think you'd have enough time between finals and Loyola to sit for and pass the exam. A few months of casual studying should get the job done, even if you work full time. I'm not sure if you're allowed to list it on the resume before you've been admitted, but you might want to check with your CDO about that. I had already taken it before LS (wanted to get it out of the way), so I'm not sure about the rule. I think it's a HUGE help in certain aspects of OCI, especially for the IP boutiques.
I'm not sure why it'd be a plus for a firm, it seems trivial to pass it. But I've heard it can help.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:27 pm
by Big Shrimpin
I think it made a (slight) difference in my OCI cycle. (PM for details)

My impression was that it shows you're serious about the work/practice. Moreover, consensus opinion (again, based upon all the interviewers I spoke with during OCI) seemed to be that, even if you're not going to do prosecution, firms like associates/prospectives to have patent reg # since (a) you can take-on more work and (b) lots of trial issues (claims, defenses, etc...) are going to be based, at least in part, upon procedural issues during prosecution. Basically, they made it seem like the reg # today, regardless of whether you use it, is a proxy for general understanding of the entire prosecution process. Despite how mechanical the rules of prosecution seem to be, you'd be surprised how many issues get litigated about them, and at least having a background seems to be a good selling point (I assume also clients might like to see that younger associates working for them would like to see that those associates have a reg #, thereby sort of "implying" they know a thing or do about prosecution, especially if its relevant in their case).

In sum, it can't hurt, but it's not going to be a golden-ticket for a biglaw jerb.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:32 am
by wiseowl
There's likely a rush on things right now since the test is changing. Wouldn't surprise me if things are a little slower than usual.

Also, anyone know what effect a government shutdown would have on things? Thankfully I'm done already, just curious.

Re: Patent Bar - where register?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:30 am
by DavisPoster
Thanks all!