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Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:21 pm
by LAWYER2
Ok, I probably should have learned my lesson by now after the countless advice to skip case reading, but I have just been doing assigned class readings for Civ Pro I, and when I come to class, the professor is all over the map. I'm just not putting the big picture together between class and the readings.
Is there another source I should focus on beyond reading cases to teach myself Civ Pro??
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:23 pm
by Renzo
The E&E is solid gold.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:54 pm
by beach_terror
Renzo wrote:The E&E is solid gold.
Then the Freer hornbook is super rare jewels.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:57 pm
by jbarl1
Watch the BarBri lecture...it literally taught me everything last semester, it is absolutely fantastic.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:28 pm
by keg411
jbarl1 wrote:Watch the BarBri lecture...it literally taught me everything last semester, it is absolutely fantastic.
+ this forever. I <3 that man more than words.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:42 am
by lawschoolftw
This is all fantastic advise ESPECIALLY if you're using the freer casebook (which I did). Also I've heard glannon guide is gold too but the E&E is sufficient.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:00 am
by BeenDidThat
Renzo wrote:The E&E is solid gold.
I read more in the E&E than my casebook and did well in CivPro. I had lots of "aha!" moments re: pjdx, smjdx, venue thanks to the E&E.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:17 pm
by traehekat
It is amazing how unclear things can be in class and then how clear they can be made when you read the E&E. Almost like you are talking about two completely different things.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:27 pm
by savagedm
Where can one access these barbri lectures? Also, if it's super super super confusing, check out the legalines keyed to your casebook. They essentially give you your case notes and you can focus on the concepts themselves instead of wasting hours trying to parse it all out (I know for myself, I can already read a court opinion and pick apart the logic with a couple passes, but why waste my time continually doing this when I could expedite it on things which aren't super f'n crucial?)
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:08 pm
by traehekat
savagedm wrote:Where can one access these barbri lectures?
+1.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:54 pm
by jbarl1
traehekat wrote:savagedm wrote:Where can one access these barbri lectures?
+1.
You need to be a BarBri member, like sign up to take their bar review course. Then it is in the online materials on their website. If you aren't a member, ask a friend who is a member if they would be willing to share their password and username with you.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:25 am
by Retiarius
Renzo wrote:The E&E is solid gold.
This.
I was exactly in your situation. I read every assigned case, but didn't really understand what was going on. I was missing the big picture on everything. Then, a few weeks before the final exam, I grinded through every E&E chapter related to the material we covered in class. It clarified everything, and wasn't hard to absorb since I had the background of the case readings.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:42 am
by keg411
jbarl1 wrote:traehekat wrote:savagedm wrote:Where can one access these barbri lectures?
+1.
You need to be a BarBri member, like sign up to take their bar review course. Then it is in the online materials on their website. If you aren't a member, ask a friend who is a member if they would be willing to share their password and username with you.
The $50 fee to be a member was worth it and then some. Once you login, there is a link to 1L lectures.
I'm probably going to try some of the other lectures this semester.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:02 pm
by TTH
keg411 wrote:jbarl1 wrote:traehekat wrote:savagedm wrote:Where can one access these barbri lectures?
+1.
You need to be a BarBri member, like sign up to take their bar review course. Then it is in the online materials on their website. If you aren't a member, ask a friend who is a member if they would be willing to share their password and username with you.
The $50 fee to be a member was worth it and then some. Once you login, there is a link to 1L lectures.
I'm probably going to try some of the other lectures this semester.
Co-signed. The Freer lectures on BarBri are super-credited. There's also a helpful outline floating around the internet on docstoc that presents a lot of the things in flowchart format that I found helpful.
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:02 pm
by prezidentv8
<my image turned into something different, wtf?>
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:46 pm
by savagedm
keg411 wrote:
The $50 fee to be a member was worth it and then some. Once you login, there is a link to 1L lectures.
I'm probably going to try some of the other lectures this semester.
Sweet I did that last semester!
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:17 pm
by Helmholtz
TTH wrote:There's also a helpful outline floating around the internet on docstoc that presents a lot of the things in flowchart format that I found helpful.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/303339/Free ... Guide-2006
That? Somebody mind sending me a pdf of it?
Re: Civ Pro, How do I teach myself?
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:36 pm
by TTH
Helmholtz wrote:TTH wrote:There's also a helpful outline floating around the internet on docstoc that presents a lot of the things in flowchart format that I found helpful.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/303339/Free ... Guide-2006
That? Somebody mind sending me a pdf of it?
That's the one. I didn't buy it myself or I'd pass it along.