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2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:08 pm
by gradesmatter
Which upper-level classes are the worst for having the most gunners?

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:16 pm
by conn09
Fed Courts

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:38 pm
by A'nold
Crim pro adjudication gets a lot of crim law gunners....

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:40 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
Does it matter? I thought after 1L grades don't matter anymore :D

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:43 pm
by A'nold
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Does it matter? I thought after 1L grades don't matter anymore :D
This could be another reason why transfers do so well. The top students are all chill b/c they are on LR and have 2L summers lined up and the median students are all just like "meh, 2 semesters and I'm median, that's just how it is" and then just go through the motions. Transfers still have something to prove at their new school.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:44 pm
by dood
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Does it matter? I thought after 1L grades don't matter anymore :D
they do if u want to clerk. which is why fed cts is gunner central. i believe some 80% of my fed cts class is on LR, including the EiC.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:51 pm
by JG Hall
LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:54 pm
by Renzo
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:02 pm
by A'nold
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
This just made me lol hard. So freakin' true.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:18 am
by traehekat
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
the worst is when the half that doesn't speak english and the half that doesn't shut up are the same half.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:01 am
by A'nold
traehekat wrote:
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
the worst is when the half that doesn't speak english and the half that doesn't shut up are the same half.
That would suck. The LLM's in my business type class are like that but in my other classes they just look straight at the professor not saying anything when they are cold called.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:09 am
by Wavelet
dood wrote:
MrPapagiorgio wrote:Does it matter? I thought after 1L grades don't matter anymore :D
they do if u want to clerk. which is why fed cts is gunner central. i believe some 80% of my fed cts class is on LR, including the EiC.
I'm not that worried when I see a class stacked with a bunch of executive-level LR editors (e.g., EIC)--they're usually too busy with the journal to really destroy. It's often the "lesser" law review editors that you need to be concerned about--the ones with grades high enough that they didn't need to gun for EIC to be competitive for a clerkship.

Also: Admin Law is gunner central at my school.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:33 pm
by HarlandBassett
A'nold wrote:
traehekat wrote:
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
the worst is when the half that doesn't speak english and the half that doesn't shut up are the same half.
That would suck. The LLM's in my business type class are like that but in my other classes they just look straight at the professor not saying anything when they are cold called.
what are you saying? that it is easy to be in the top 10% of the grading curve in a tax LLM program?

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:44 pm
by 98234872348
Conflicts and fed courts.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:39 pm
by A'nold
A'nold wrote:
traehekat wrote:
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
the worst is when the half that doesn't speak english and the half that doesn't shut up are the same half.
That would suck. The LLM's in my business type class are like that but in my other classes they just look straight at the professor not saying anything when they are cold called.
what are you saying? that it is easy to be in the top 10% of the grading curve in a tax LLM program?
What are YOU saying?

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:40 pm
by justadude55
Why does everyone hate gunners - like avoiding classes cause they might have gunners?

I am starting next year, and I can see gunners being annoying like the same way those people in a bar who always have to be right are annoying, but you normally just look them in the eye, say "that's great man" and then ignore them.

do they set the curve or something? what's the big deal?

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:43 pm
by A'nold
justadude55 wrote:Why does everyone hate gunners - like avoiding classes cause they might have gunners?

I am starting next year, and I can see gunners being annoying like the same way those people in a bar who always have to be right are annoying, but you normally just look them in the eye, say "that's great man" and then ignore them.

do they set the curve or something? what's the big deal?
Bwahahahahaha.

Actually, for this thread, people are using the word "gunner" a little differently to actually mean students that try very hard and ALSO get good grades. These are the rarer species.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:24 pm
by Borhas
note: never take Fed courts, don't try for clerkship

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:31 pm
by justadude55
A'nold wrote:
justadude55 wrote:Why does everyone hate gunners - like avoiding classes cause they might have gunners?

I am starting next year, and I can see gunners being annoying like the same way those people in a bar who always have to be right are annoying, but you normally just look them in the eye, say "that's great man" and then ignore them.

do they set the curve or something? what's the big deal?
Bwahahahahaha.

Actually, for this thread, people are using the word "gunner" a little differently to actually mean students that try very hard and ALSO get good grades. These are the rarer species.
I don't understand how gunner would mean this. Doesn't it mean trigger happy people - I.E. people quick to fire. If they fire, and are right, aren't they more of a sniper?

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:47 pm
by Wavelet
justadude55 wrote:
A'nold wrote:
justadude55 wrote:Why does everyone hate gunners - like avoiding classes cause they might have gunners?

I am starting next year, and I can see gunners being annoying like the same way those people in a bar who always have to be right are annoying, but you normally just look them in the eye, say "that's great man" and then ignore them.

do they set the curve or something? what's the big deal?
Bwahahahahaha.

Actually, for this thread, people are using the word "gunner" a little differently to actually mean students that try very hard and ALSO get good grades. These are the rarer species.
I don't understand how gunner would mean this. Doesn't it mean trigger happy people - I.E. people quick to fire. If they fire, and are right, aren't they more of a sniper?
For whatever reason, "gunner" takes on a slightly different meaning when used to describe 2/3Ls than when used to describe 1Ls. Maybe "striver" is more appropriate.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:09 pm
by Tsispilos
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
so true

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:20 pm
by Tsispilos
but in my experience, fed courts and crim pro have had the highest gunner concentrations

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:36 pm
by legends159
traehekat wrote:
Renzo wrote:
JG Hall wrote:LLMs don't shut up, but they're not traditional gunners (because they don't give a shit about grades), just narcissists.
To be fair, that's only half of them. The other half don't really speak English, don't prepare for class, and don't give a fuck.
the worst is when the half that doesn't speak english and the half that doesn't shut up are the same half.
lol yup. but some know so much more about the subject than we do b/c they've practiced in the area for years.

Re: 2L gunners

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:11 pm
by seriousstudenttt
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