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Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:08 pm
by Anonymous Loser
While most of my credits next semester will be devoted to clinical work and courses closely related to the practice area I plan to enter, I do have a few credits I can devote toward those subject areas that I am unfamiliar with but expect to see on the bar exam.

I am planning on taking secured transactions, because I've heard that this can be difficult to pick up through BarBri, and my state (Washington) has a reputation for difficult Article 9 questions on the bar exam.

Are there any other courses I should look into to avoid self-pwning on the bar exam?

I've taken Corporations / Partnerships, and an Article 2 course, but beyond that I haven't had much exposure to business/transactional subjects. I feel very comfortable with property, criminal law, and torts, and pick up procedure very quickly.

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:08 pm
by reasonable_man
Anonymous Loser wrote:While most of my credits next semester will be devoted to clinical work and courses closely related to the practice area I plan to enter, I do have a few credits I can devote toward those subject areas that I am unfamiliar with but expect to see on the bar exam.

I am planning on taking secured transactions, because I've heard that this can be difficult to pick up through BarBri, and my state (Washington) has a reputation for difficult Article 9 questions on the bar exam.

Are there any other courses I should look into to avoid self-pwning on the bar exam?

I've taken Corporations / Partnerships, and an Article 2 course, but beyond that I haven't had much exposure to business/transactional subjects. I feel very comfortable with property, criminal law, and torts, and pick up procedure very quickly.

Trust and Estates.. Family Law.. Evidence..

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:15 pm
by Anonymous Loser
I've taken Evidence; I had been considering both T & E and Family Law, so thanks for the input.

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:35 pm
by nealric
Take what you want to take- don't worry about the bar.

I had never taken trusts and estates, wills, family law, secured transactions, commercial paper, and a host of other bar subjects before taking the bar. Barbri taught me everything I needed to know.

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:43 pm
by TigerBeer
nealric wrote:Take what you want to take- don't worry about the bar.

I had never taken trusts and estates, wills, family law, secured transactions, commercial paper, and a host of other bar subjects before taking the bar. Barbri taught me everything I needed to know.
but wouldn't you have needed to study less for the bar if you had taken those in school? I'm all about maximizing laziness

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:47 pm
by vamedic03
TigerBeer wrote:
nealric wrote:Take what you want to take- don't worry about the bar.

I had never taken trusts and estates, wills, family law, secured transactions, commercial paper, and a host of other bar subjects before taking the bar. Barbri taught me everything I needed to know.
but wouldn't you have needed to study less for the bar if you had taken those in school? I'm all about maximizing laziness
Barbri = lazy; 3-4 credit class + outlining/exam prep + exam ≠ lazy

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:14 pm
by TigerBeer
vamedic03 wrote:
TigerBeer wrote:
nealric wrote:Take what you want to take- don't worry about the bar.

I had never taken trusts and estates, wills, family law, secured transactions, commercial paper, and a host of other bar subjects before taking the bar. Barbri taught me everything I needed to know.
but wouldn't you have needed to study less for the bar if you had taken those in school? I'm all about maximizing laziness
Barbri = lazy; 3-4 credit class + outlining/exam prep + exam ≠ lazy
yeah, but if you didn't take family law or whatever, you'd have to take some other subject anyway. it's not like you get to just chill.

i'm just sayin, if you have to take SOME class to meet unit requirements anyway, wouldn't it be more efficient to take a class that fulfills two purposes simultaneously (getting units to graduate + studying for the bar)? not that i'm so married to the idea, those subjects sound boring as hell to me.

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:35 am
by DelDad
Bar prep is onerous no matter what you've taken in school; if you aren't spending time on learning secured transactions for the first time, you are spending time memorizing the difference between first second, third, and fourth degree kidnapping under state law. Regardless, you spend the time and effort: there is no way to make the two months before the Bar enjoyable, but at least for most people (including those who don't take classes in law school aimed at the Bar) the bar prep classes and self study are enough.

On the other hand, spending a whole semester on classes that aren't interesting to you in the least is a way to make law school less enjoyable than it otherwise might be. Take a seminar or clinic you are interested in, or some upper level class that builds on something you've already taken and liked.

Re: Course selection for the bar exam

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:54 am
by nealric
Bar prep is onerous no matter what you've taken in school; if you aren't spending time on learning secured transactions for the first time, you are spending time memorizing the difference between first second, third, and fourth degree kidnapping under state law. Regardless, you spend the time and effort: there is no way to make the two months before the Bar enjoyable, but at least for most people (including those who don't take classes in law school aimed at the Bar) the bar prep classes and self study are enough.

On the other hand, spending a whole semester on classes that aren't interesting to you in the least is a way to make law school less enjoyable than it otherwise might be. Take a seminar or clinic you are interested in, or some upper level class that builds on something you've already taken and liked.
Well said.

I would also add that unless you go to a local school, it's unlikely that you are going to learn the state nuances you will need for the bar in class.