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Could someone explain to me

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:09 pm
by Gatriel
Why WestLaw moves at a glacial pace. I hate Lexis, but WLN is so slow at times I'm almost tempted to use their competitor.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:15 pm
by kalvano
How can you hate Lexis? I much prefer them.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:14 am
by OneSixtySix
Westlaw Next seems to be pretty snappy and is amazing for organizational purposes. It's probably the major reason I actually like legal writing,

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:23 am
by jdubb990
How could anybody hate lexis when it has the "copy w/ cite", "more like this", AND "shepards"?

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:07 am
by inchoate_con
jdubb990 wrote:How could anybody hate lexis when it has the "copy w/ cite", "more like this", AND "shepards"?
Have you used WestlawNext?

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:11 am
by Sauer Grapes
OP, are you using safari? I've heard it works really slowly with safari.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:48 am
by JazzOne
Gatriel wrote:Why WestLaw moves at a glacial pace. I hate Lexis, but WLN is so slow at times I'm almost tempted to use their competitor.
Are you the PHOSITA?

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:02 am
by skoobily doobily
I should pitch the idea to Google for a GoogleLegal. Given how much better their search engine is, and how much firms pay Westlaw/Lexis they could make a killing.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:09 am
by Sean Bateman
westlaw rep. told us google is working on something, and to keep your eyes open for it in the next five years.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:00 pm
by BarbellDreams
inchoate_con wrote:
jdubb990 wrote:How could anybody hate lexis when it has the "copy w/ cite", "more like this", AND "shepards"?
Have you used WestlawNext?
My thoughts exactly. The only people that dont hate Lexis are people who's schools didn't get WestlawNext.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:28 pm
by beach_terror
I use Lexis for aesthetic reasons. It looks prettier.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:00 pm
by JazzOne
beach_terror wrote:I use Lexis for aesthetic reasons. It looks prettier.
WestlawNext brah

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:17 pm
by Anonymous Loser
jdubb990 wrote:How could anybody hate lexis when it has the "copy w/ cite", "more like this", AND "shepards"?
These same features are available in the basic version of Westlaw.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:19 pm
by keg411
skoobily doobily wrote:I should pitch the idea to Google for a GoogleLegal. Given how much better their search engine is, and how much firms pay Westlaw/Lexis they could make a killing.
They have Google Scholar right now. It's pretty decent for preliminary research.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:20 pm
by JazzOne
skoobily doobily wrote:I should pitch the idea to Google for a GoogleLegal. Given how much better their search engine is, and how much firms pay Westlaw/Lexis they could make a killing.
WestlawNext already scooped your idea. They now have a pretty damn good natural language search algorithm.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:54 pm
by skoobily doobily
JazzOne wrote:
skoobily doobily wrote:I should pitch the idea to Google for a GoogleLegal. Given how much better their search engine is, and how much firms pay Westlaw/Lexis they could make a killing.
WestlawNext already scooped your idea. They now have a pretty damn good natural language search algorithm.
Anything that can be done, can be done better by Google. This is true of all things, including contradictions. "Even (and only) Google can do things better than Google can."

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:15 pm
by JazzOne
skoobily doobily wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
skoobily doobily wrote:I should pitch the idea to Google for a GoogleLegal. Given how much better their search engine is, and how much firms pay Westlaw/Lexis they could make a killing.
WestlawNext already scooped your idea. They now have a pretty damn good natural language search algorithm.
Anything that can be done, can be done better by Google. This is true of all things, including contradictions. "Even (and only) Google can do things better than Google can."
Yeah, perhaps Google should try to acquire Lexis. The thing that Google is lacking is the raw data. They don't have a few million cases digitized. A collaboration between Google and Lexis would be pretty cool.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:16 pm
by Cupidity
WL like lightning here.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:24 am
by Gatriel
Yeah I am using Safari, but its the same gig with FireFox as well. :(

KeyCite with WLN + Copy with Reference made the memo a breeze. All the librarians hate WLN with a passion, as it effectively eliminates the need for them. If we could only now get rid of the circulation desk and take the $75k a year were spending on them and put in a Starbucks in their place. Actual utility out of the library.

Re: Could someone explain to me

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:25 am
by Gatriel
JazzOne wrote:[
Yeah, perhaps Google should try to acquire Lexis. The thing that Google is lacking is the raw data. They don't have a few million cases digitized. A collaboration between Google and Lexis would be pretty cool.
That really is the only thing I could see competing with WLN. It would be interesting to say the least.