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People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:10 pm
by charlesjd
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Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:14 pm
by Cupidity
Hate to admit it, but I have been one of those "doing nothing students", but be aware, a lot of us set Nov. 1st as the day to start preparing for battle.
Starting this week, my free time is now going to outlining and the summer job search. Burnout is a real threat, I know that I can can do 10-12 hour days for a month and a half and not much longer which is why I've waited this long.
Also, I know someone at a T-20 who got a 4.0+ and didn't outline until December. There are people out there who work like that, don't write the off either.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:34 pm
by Other25BeforeYou
Lots of folks (including myself) never outline or read hornbooks before the weekend prior to exam period. There's a method to our perceived madness.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:36 pm
by beach_terror
Even though I'm with the OP in terms of being on top of things, I definitely recognize that I'm not at any cognizable advantage over any of my classmates... as much as I'd like to think so.
I'm also in the "drinks a lot" category.
Other25BeforeYou wrote:Lots of folks (including myself) never outline or read hornbooks before the weekend prior to exam period. There's a method to our perceived madness.
Care to elaborate?
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:02 pm
by Cupidity
It's all how your brain works. I've got an insane short term memory. For me, the last few weeks are going to be a sprint instead of a marathon.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:07 pm
by rayiner
charlesjd wrote:I get this impression that a lot of people are not outlining, (they went out the entire past weekend), and drink a lot overall. I feel like most people just read cases. The few of us (two that I know of) who did 0L prep, etc, are working our asses off to outline, etc. Anyone else experience this? I am at a T50.
How much each phase of the law school timeline counts towards grades:
September - 0%
October - 0%
November - 0%
December - 100%
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:10 pm
by Amy wineBerry
Cupidity wrote:It's all how your brain works. I've got an insane short term memory. For me, the last few weeks are going to be a sprint instead of a marathon.
Same here...everyone tried to scare me out of doing this, but it's the way I operate.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:12 pm
by dood
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Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:43 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:dood wrote:grades are arbitrary
Grades may be a little arbitrary in any given class, but they are hardly so when one takes a longer/broader view. Certainly grades are, in the aggregate, NOT arbitrary once you get a whole year's worth.
^^Absolutely agree. Saying a year's worth of grades is "arbitrary" is a great feel good excuse for not doing well.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:55 pm
by Merr
charlesjd wrote:I get this impression that a lot of people are not outlining, (they went out the entire past weekend), and drink a lot overall. I feel like most people just read cases. The few of us (two that I know of) who did 0L prep, etc, are working our asses off to outline, etc. Anyone else experience this? I am at a T50.
I have been more focused on going through practice tests/test sections as soon as I know the material rather then outlining. I have always needed to have a good idea of what exactly is coming before contemplating strategies as different profs. want different things. Now that I have a good idea of what is coming the outlining shall commence.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:57 pm
by Grizz
Outlining starts tomorrow broheim.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:58 pm
by RVP11
charlesjd wrote:I get this impression that a lot of people are not outlining, (they went out the entire past weekend), and drink a lot overall. I feel like most people just read cases. The few of us (two that I know of) who did 0L prep, etc, are working our asses off to outline, etc. Anyone else experience this? I am at a T50.
A lot of people who wait until November to kick it into gear still do well.
Very few people who wait until December do very well.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:00 pm
by kalvano
charlesjd wrote:I get this impression that a lot of people are not outlining, (they went out the entire past weekend), and drink a lot overall. I feel like most people just read cases. The few of us (two that I know of) who did 0L prep, etc, are working our asses off to outline, etc. Anyone else experience this? I am at a T50.
For me, outlines are a review. Making them, then going through them. Why should I be reviewing stuff I learned last week?
Waiting until closer to exams to start means I get to review all the stuff I learned way back in August, and go over it again with a much better perspective.
Also, keep in mind that some people you perceive as "not doing anything" because they don't outline are in fact doing a lot of work. I spent several hours this weekend reading for Civ Pro, Torts, and Crim.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:08 pm
by Cosmo Kramer
They're the ones you should fear the most.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:11 pm
by 09042014
If I can learn how a transistor works in a day, I can learn Property in a day.
Looks at UGPA.
SHIT I BETTER STUDY
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:14 pm
by Charles Barkley
Just keep focusing on what you're doing.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:16 pm
by Aqualibrium
rayiner wrote:charlesjd wrote:I get this impression that a lot of people are not outlining, (they went out the entire past weekend), and drink a lot overall. I feel like most people just read cases. The few of us (two that I know of) who did 0L prep, etc, are working our asses off to outline, etc. Anyone else experience this? I am at a T50.
How much each phase of the law school timeline counts towards grades:
September - 0%
October - 0%
November - 0%
December - 100%
+1 I did nothing, and ended up just fine with regards to jobs and grades.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:45 pm
by Renzo
G. T. L. Rev. wrote:dood wrote:grades are arbitrary
Grades may be a little arbitrary in any given class, but they are hardly so when one takes a longer/broader view. Certainly grades are, in the aggregate, NOT arbitrary once you get a whole year's worth.
Grades aren't arbitrary, but they are largely random. Grades are a product of (A) time spent preparing, (B) innate ability, (C) examsmanship skill and (D) random chance. (D) is a large number, but it's not entirely determinative.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:48 pm
by MrKappus
Renzo wrote:G. T. L. Rev. wrote:dood wrote:grades are arbitrary
Grades may be a little arbitrary in any given class, but they are hardly so when one takes a longer/broader view. Certainly grades are, in the aggregate, NOT arbitrary once you get a whole year's worth.
Grades aren't arbitrary, but they are largely random. Grades are a product of (A) time spent preparing, (B) innate ability, (C) examsmanship skill and (D) random chance. (D) is a large number, but it's not entirely determinative.
http://thesaurus.com/browse/arbitrary
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:11 am
by Renzo
MrKappus wrote:Renzo wrote:G. T. L. Rev. wrote:dood wrote:grades are arbitrary
Grades may be a little arbitrary in any given class, but they are hardly so when one takes a longer/broader view. Certainly grades are, in the aggregate, NOT arbitrary once you get a whole year's worth.
Grades aren't arbitrary, but they are largely random. Grades are a product of (A) time spent preparing, (B) innate ability, (C) examsmanship skill and (D) random chance. (D) is a large number, but it's not entirely determinative.
http://thesaurus.com/browse/arbitrary
No,
random, not
arbitrary
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:12 am
by MrKappus
They're synonyms brosef.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:13 am
by eandy
rad law wrote:Outlining starts tomorrow broheim.
This. Climbing into my bunker now.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:13 am
by Renzo
MrKappus wrote:They're synonyms brosef.
Not to people who know what they mean.
Arbitrary decisions are not necessarily the same as random decisions. For example, during the 1973 oil crisis, Americans were allowed to purchase gasoline only on odd-numbered days if their license plate was odd, and on even-numbered days if their license plate was even. The system was well-defined and not random in its restrictions; however, since license plate numbers are completely unrelated to a person's fitness to purchase gasoline, it was still an arbitrary division of people. Similarly, schoolchildren are often organized by their surname in alphabetical order, a non-random yet still arbitrary method, at least in cases where surnames are irrelevant.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:16 am
by MrKappus
Roget's got my back.
Re: People are doing nothing
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:38 am
by worldtraveler
Some people also appear to be doing nothing yet are working their asses off when you don't see them. There are also some who like to pretend they don't study when they really do.