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I have a copy of the entire program including the audio cd, the primer, and the booklet. My only problem is the primer is missing quite a few pages (7-12, 15-20, 23-31). Will I need the primer to get the most out of the program, or should I just ignore it altogether? I'm not sure what to make of all the squiggles and big black dots.

Also, I just listened to the intro and part of part 2 and didn't get a whole lot of either portions. Should I finish reading the booklet first and extract what I can from it?

Just listen to the program and don't worry about the worksheets.

A'nold wrote:Just listen to the program and don't worry about the worksheets.

Ok, will do.

Listen to the audio program and follow along whenever it refers to pages in the primer. Mostly you need the practice questions and model answers towards the end. Otherwise, much of the primer repeats information mentioned in the audio program. You almost don't even need to bother reading it after you listen to the audio CDs, but there are a few bits of information that aren't mentioned elsewhere, plus it helps to cement what you just listened to.

traehekat wrote:Listen to the audio program and follow along whenever it refers to pages in the primer. Mostly you need the practice questions and model answers towards the end. Otherwise, much of the primer repeats information mentioned in the audio program. You almost don't even need to bother reading it after you listen to the audio CDs, but there are a few bits of information that aren't mentioned elsewhere, plus it helps to cement what you just listened to.

Ehhh, that's the problem--half the pages of the primer are missing. If I need those pages, I may just have to pay the $30-$40 on Amazon to get the Primer brand spanking new unless someone on fleabay offers it or the whole program cheap.


EDIT: I'm sleepy and it's late. RC fail.

Ok. So Are you saying I just need to tune in and listen when the audio tape says to flip to X page? Will it be simple to reconstruct the hypothetical the speaker is referring to?

zeth006 wrote:

traehekat wrote:Listen to the audio program and follow along whenever it refers to pages in the primer. Mostly you need the practice questions and model answers towards the end. Otherwise, much of the primer repeats information mentioned in the audio program. You almost don't even need to bother reading it after you listen to the audio CDs, but there are a few bits of information that aren't mentioned elsewhere, plus it helps to cement what you just listened to.

Ehhh, that's the problem--half the pages of the primer are missing. If I need those pages, I may just have to pay the $30-$40 on Amazon to get the Primer brand spanking new unless someone on fleabay offers it or the whole program cheap.


EDIT: I'm sleepy and it's late. RC fail.

Ok. So Are you saying I just need to tune in and listen when the audio tape says to flip to X page? Will it be simple to reconstruct the hypothetical the speaker is referring to?

I mean, you shouldn't have to reconstruct anything, cause it should be right there in the primer. From what you said regarding which pages are you missing, you should have all the practice exams still as they are located at the end of the primer. Pretty much all discussion of hypothetical facts stems from these exams.

traehekat wrote:

zeth006 wrote:

traehekat wrote:Listen to the audio program and follow along whenever it refers to pages in the primer. Mostly you need the practice questions and model answers towards the end. Otherwise, much of the primer repeats information mentioned in the audio program. You almost don't even need to bother reading it after you listen to the audio CDs, but there are a few bits of information that aren't mentioned elsewhere, plus it helps to cement what you just listened to.

Ehhh, that's the problem--half the pages of the primer are missing. If I need those pages, I may just have to pay the $30-$40 on Amazon to get the Primer brand spanking new unless someone on fleabay offers it or the whole program cheap.


EDIT: I'm sleepy and it's late. RC fail.

Ok. So Are you saying I just need to tune in and listen when the audio tape says to flip to X page? Will it be simple to reconstruct the hypothetical the speaker is referring to?

I mean, you shouldn't have to reconstruct anything, cause it should be right there in the primer. From what you said regarding which pages are you missing, you should have all the practice exams still as they are located at the end of the primer. Pretty much all discussion of hypothetical facts stems from these exams.

Problem is all the end pages are missing. Only 21-22 have anything on them and 22 looks like it didn't copy properly.

Any chance I can just finish reading the long appendix and get everything I need, or should I just go legit and pay the usual $70-80 for a used copy on fleabay?

I found the primer more useful than the audio.

Also, there is a torrent of useful information out there.

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kalvano wrote:I found the primer more useful than the audio.

Also, there is a torrent of useful information out there.

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kalvano wrote:I found the primer more useful than the audio.

Also, there is a torrent of useful information out there.

Yes, I know. The torrent itself is missing one page in the primer and the handouts are missing half the diagrams. I thought the handout was the primer, but it turns out I got my terms wrong.