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Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:06 pm
by jdubb990
My property class is going to be using the casebook Property and Lawyering by Freyermuth. Has anybody else used this textbook? What supplement did you find went best with it? I've looked through some of the threads I found on the 0L disclaimer regarding supplements. During my investigation I didn't find that anybody had this as their textbook and it seems with property there are certain supplements seem to correspond with certain textbooks.

I also wasn't assigned any supplement for Torts. It seems from what I've looked at that E&E's will be fine though. Am I right?

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:10 pm
by 270910
jdubb990 wrote:My property class is going to be using the casebook Property and Lawyering by Freyermuth. Has anybody else used this textbook? What supplement did you find went best with it? I've looked through some of the threads I found on the 0L disclaimer regarding supplements. During my investigation I didn't find that anybody had this as their textbook and it seems with property there are certain supplements seem to correspond with certain textbooks.

I also wasn't assigned any supplement for Torts. It seems from what I've looked at that E&E's will be fine though. Am I right?
Re: #1 stop lying. Nobody uses a casebook other than the Dukemenier casebook for property. It's the law.

Re: #2 yes, but Torts is like every other 1L class in that each professor teaches it differently. My prof covered only a tiny fraction of the E&E and focused on many things that were not in it, rendering it substantially less useful than other supplements. You can't really play this game to any significant degree of effectiveness until you're in the class and have been for weeks. Some classes you won't even want or need a supplement. And you certainly won't NEED one during your first few weeks. And even the universally recommended supplements can have exceptions - I found Chemerinsky not especially useful for my con law class (*SHOCK*).

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:17 pm
by jdubb990
Actually I'm not lying. I just double checked to make sure I ordered the right book. The other professors are using Dukemenier. I've got the oddball though-we are using Property and Lawyering like I previously said.

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:19 pm
by 270910
jdubb990 wrote:Actually I was lying, sorry. I just double checked to make sure I ordered the right book, and it turns out we are using Dukemenier. Thanks for clearing that up!
Not a problem my man.

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:19 pm
by jdubb990
disco_barred wrote:
jdubb990 wrote:Actually I was lying, sorry. I just double checked to make sure I ordered the right book, and it turns out we are using Dukemenier. Thanks for clearing that up!
Not a problem my man.
Way to be helpful. Ass.

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:47 pm
by 270910
I'm just kidding around dood. The Dukemenier casebook is so universal that it's passingly amusing to see it not being used. My comment / re-edit were for the lulz, not aggressive.

And my second comment is actually solid advice. 100% Grade-A Disco_Barred Trying to Help Instead of Being a Sarcastic Prick Advice.

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:09 pm
by jdubb990
I would worry since he's using an off the wall book, but the guy was awarded order of the coif from his alma mater so he can't be a d.a..

Ok, so if I find myself needing a supplement for property, then there's not really a specific place I should turn then? Any property supplement will work?

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:15 pm
by 270910
jdubb990 wrote:I would worry since he's using an off the wall book, but the guy was awarded order of the coif from his alma mater so he can't be a d.a..

Ok, so if I find myself needing a supplement for property, then there's not really a specific place I should turn then? Any property supplement will work?
I would wait until about 4 weeks into the semester. Look at what you've done so far, look at the syllabus of what is to come. Pause, breathe deeply, and meditate on the nature of your property class. To that point you don't really have any way to know what you AREN'T focusing on, only what you ARE focusing on.

Then, go to your library or book store and flip through some supplements. Most law students find that some supplements just have an "ah-ha!" click. It will match the way your course is laid out, it will be clear, it will address things in a similar order and depth, etc. Some supplements are so good and comprehensive they are often universally recommended (E&E for civ pro, Chemerinsky for con law), others match casebooks very well (gilberts -> Dukeminier). But the combination of syllabus + prof + case book + a few weeks of class will help you evaluate this decision or yourself so much better than we on the internet can speaking in generalities.

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:09 pm
by Warhawk
disco_barred wrote:I'm just kidding around dood. The Dukemenier casebook is so universal that it's passingly amusing to see it not being used. My comment / re-edit were for the lulz, not aggressive.

And my second comment is actually solid advice. 100% Grade-A Disco_Barred Trying to Help Instead of Being a Sarcastic Prick Advice.
Yeah, I'm going to have to step in here and put in a word for Singer...

Re: Property and Lawyering Freyermuth

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:35 pm
by mikeytwoshoes
jdubb990 wrote:
disco_barred wrote:
jdubb990 wrote:Actually I was lying, sorry. I just double checked to make sure I ordered the right book, and it turns out we are using Dukemenier. Thanks for clearing that up!
Not a problem my man.
Way to be helpful. Ass.
Legal writing won't be fun for you. "Ass" is not a sentence.