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Massive self-call FTW.

dood wrote:What to put on resume? Google and friends give mixed results. I was under the impression "extern" meant working for a judge during the school year, while "intern" refers to the summer. And is it "Judicial Ex/Intern to the Honorable Judge Richard A. Posner" or "Judicial Ex/Intern to the Honorable Richard A. Posner"?

Not that there's a huge distinction or big deal one way or another. Just curious to see what TLS says.

i'd ask career services, at least to clear up the intern/extern distinction.

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dood wrote:GW CDO gave me what I thought was a real goofy answer on extern v. intern - apparently it's an East Coast v. West Coast thing. I looked at UCLA and Berzerkely's CDO websites and sample resumes versus Harvard or Columbia...UCLA & Berk. use extern, but so does Columbia. Harvard uses intern.

did you seriously just say berzerkely? did you do that to match your tar's glasses??

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Main Entry: 3in·tern
Variant(s): also in·terne \ˈin-ˌtərn\
Function: noun
Etymology: French interne, from interne, adjective
Date: circa 1879
: an advanced student or graduate usually in a professional field (as medicine or teaching) gaining supervised practical experience (as in a hospital or classroom)
— in·tern·ship \-ˌship\ noun

Numerous places use "judicial intern" as a title...typically referring to one still in law school who works for a judge for the summer.

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Let me break it down for you so you understand, I'll hold your hand like a small child: if you worked for him while you were in classes...extern. If you worked for him while you were didn't have classes...intern.

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I would drop "judicial" and stick with "Honorable" or "Hon." and [Name]. No "Honorable Judge [Name]."

Edit: And use "intern." I think more people will know what you mean compared to if you use "extern."

amyLAchemist wrote:Ya know, I could ask my clerks and report back. I assumed extern, since that is what we are referred to by the judge and the clerks, but I'll ask.

Midwest federal district court, the whole district (15+ judges) calls their 1L/2L interns, interns. No one used extern, even tho I used that in my cover letter. I think it depends on the judge.

megaTTTron wrote:Midwest federal district court, the whole district (15+ judges) calls their 1L/2L interns, interns. No one used extern, even tho I used that in my cover letter. I think it depends on the judge.

TCR. Extern = one resides in a place of professional service, but is not officially affiliated w/ that institution (e.g., an unaffiliated MD).

It is just a regional difference. To most readers it will mean exactly the same thing.

At my school (East Coast, in case it matters) "extern" means it's tied to a class: you work for a judge for, e.g., two days per week and attend a few hours of seminar with the other judicial externs at the school once a week. "Intern" is not tied to classwork in that way. And so all summer jobs for a judge, or DA's office, etc., are internships.

NewHere wrote:At my school (East Coast, in case it matters) "extern" means it's tied to a class: you work for a judge for, e.g., two days per week and attend a few hours of seminar with the other judicial externs at the school once a week. "Intern" is not tied to classwork in that way. And so all summer jobs for a judge, or DA's office, etc., are internships.

+1. That's what W&L calls students who work for judges during the year for credit.

Go with whatever your judge calls you, so that the terminology on your resume matches what the judge writes in your letter/reference.

And dropping the "Judge" is correct: "The Honorable Richard A. Posner"