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I like to handwrite class notes. However, I need to have typed notes to use later. What systems did you come up with to make sure handwritten class notes get incorporated into computer notes? As in when did you transcribe, and how fully. Thanks.

Get a livescribe pulse pen.

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I had two classes Friday mornings. After a short break, I would type my notes up and review the material.

macattaq wrote:I had two classes Friday mornings. After a short break, I would type my notes up and review the material.

I know a lot of people who do this. Seems like a good idea.

I fell hopelessly behind and used the student bar association's outline bank to find outlines for my profs when it became impossible to make my own.

I generally made my outlines from 3-4 old outlines on the SBA website. After each section I would read through my handwritten class notes and add anything in that wasn't already there that seemed important.

I'm not sure if I understand why you like to handwrite your class notes if making use of those notes later is such a burden.

Anonymous Loser wrote:I'm not sure if I understand why you like to handwrite your class notes if making use of those notes later is such a burden.

Good question. Two reasons:
1. Writing helps me concentrate further on what's going on in class. Computers are distracting.
2. The act of writing helps me better understand and later recall what happened in class.

Thanks for your suggestions so far. Keep them coming!

Why do you need typed notes? When I make my outlines, anything from my handwritten notes that seems important gets incorporated, and anything that doesn't seem useful gets left out. It's as simple as that.

eandy wrote:Get a livescribe pulse pen.

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I used one this semester. It was great.

That livescribe pen is awesome. I'm tempted to get one.

eandy wrote:Get a livescribe pulse pen.

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I want!!!!

While I would never voluntarily take notes by hand (too much hand pain), I do think it helps my comprehension of the material. Because one of my professors has banned laptops from the classroom, I'm forced to write by hand in that class anyway. At the end of the week, I simply sit down with my notebook and transcribe. I take an insane amount of notes, but I type fairly fast. I would estimate it takes about 30-45 minutes of typing to transcribe eight hours of class notes.

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If you get the pulse pen, make sure you also download script recognition software, as it doesn't come with the pen. I was able to transfer all my handwritten notes into digital text, which I then just imported into Word.

edited: Oops, reading above, I guess it now comes with the pen. It didn't when I bought it in Dec. Reading comp fail.

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trialjunky wrote:If you dont buy (read: run out and dont want to buy) their paper, does it not work?

No. The infrared camera reads the micro dot pattern to create the digital ink and sync to any voice recordings.
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But the notebooks are readily available at Best Buy and Target. You can also use a laser printer to print your own dot paper. Must print 600 DPI and must be a laser.

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I just finished my 1LE year and handwrote all of my notes. I NEVER brought a computer into the class. I found this gave me a leg up on most students since most dont really pay attention when the topics get boring, and I never miss a thing.

The main reason that I chose not to use a laptop is that I have a tendency (as I'm sure most do) to transcribe rather than to take proper notes. Using the livescribe pen, I never worry about missing something since I've always got the recordings to fall back on. Realistically, however, I've never once referred to the audio recordings and found that simply paying attention while the prof is talking works wonders.

At the end of the semester, my notes end up being about 70 full notebook pages per class, give or take. Civil procedure was over 100, but that class covered a ton of material. I don't transcribe these notes until a week before finals, and the transcription process pretty much takes care of all of my studying. Figure about 16 hours for transcription (I usually spread over 3 days), and then everything is cemented in your head. The notes are concise enough that once transcribed, they form an outline.

Seems to work.

My best advice for notetakers is this:

Read ahead by about a week in both your casebook and a longer treatise, and outline from that. Then when you're in class, just listen and don't worry about taking notes. Take your outline with you, and if something conflicts with what the prof said or there's something important you missed, jot it down.

SoftBoiledLife wrote:My best advice for notetakers is this:

Read ahead by about a week in both your casebook and a longer treatise, and outline from that. Then when you're in class, just listen and don't worry about taking notes. Take your outline with you, and if something conflicts with what the prof said or there's something important you missed, jot it down.

I always wanted to read a week ahead. It sounds so nice. I just never did it that way. I did exactly the same thing as you, except I would only read a day or so ahead.

megaTTTron wrote:

SoftBoiledLife wrote:My best advice for notetakers is this:

Read ahead by about a week in both your casebook and a longer treatise, and outline from that. Then when you're in class, just listen and don't worry about taking notes. Take your outline with you, and if something conflicts with what the prof said or there's something important you missed, jot it down.

I always wanted to read a week ahead. It sounds so nice. I just never did it that way. I did exactly the same thing as you, except I would only read a day or so ahead.

Eh, as long as you're ahead of the curve by 24+ hours I'm sure the system works. I was able to generally stay a week ahead by focusing on the treatises and leaning heavily on canned briefs. In any event, the important thing IMHO is to be outline-focused and take smart notes. I never understood how people learn by taking court-reporter style notes, creating some 200-page behemoth of a document they'll never re-read.

SoftBoiledLife wrote:

megaTTTron wrote:

SoftBoiledLife wrote:My best advice for notetakers is this:

Read ahead by about a week in both your casebook and a longer treatise, and outline from that. Then when you're in class, just listen and don't worry about taking notes. Take your outline with you, and if something conflicts with what the prof said or there's something important you missed, jot it down.

I always wanted to read a week ahead. It sounds so nice. I just never did it that way. I did exactly the same thing as you, except I would only read a day or so ahead.

Eh, as long as you're ahead of the curve by 24+ hours I'm sure the system works. I was able to generally stay a week ahead by focusing on the treatises and leaning heavily on canned briefs. In any event, the important thing IMHO is to be outline-focused and take smart notes. I never understood how people learn by taking court-reporter style notes, creating some 200-page behemoth of a document they'll never re-read.

I totally agree.

I just think that reading a week ahead would give you time to digest the material so that in class you've had time to think about it. My method doesn't allow for much thinking-time.

rowlf wrote:

Anonymous Loser wrote:I'm not sure if I understand why you like to handwrite your class notes if making use of those notes later is such a burden.

Good question. Two reasons:
1. Writing helps me concentrate further on what's going on in class. Computers are distracting.
2. The act of writing helps me better understand and later recall what happened in class.

Thanks for your suggestions so far. Keep them coming!

I have the opposite problem.

No computer distraction during BS-y parts of class --> Z's
Write much more slowly than I type --> Don't get all the information I want onto the page