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blue5385 wrote:1) Standards vary from state to state, but you would probably need to have committed a serious felony to be dinged, provided you disclose everything in full & your out-of-control, felony-committing days are behind you. Also, one random thing that has caused someone to be DQ'ed in the past is excessive student debt.

2) I would be shocked if someone were to be dinged for only this.

thewuzzles wrote:

blue5385 wrote:1) Standards vary from state to state, but you would probably need to have committed a serious felony to be dinged, provided you disclose everything in full & your out-of-control, felony-committing days are behind you. Also, one random thing that has caused someone to be DQ'ed in the past is excessive student debt.

2) I would be shocked if someone were to be dinged for only this.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. I guess being a whiney quitter (and maybe a bit of a bad ass with a punk rock spirit that just won't be crushed ) shouldn't DQ someone, but it was worth asking.

Regarding excessive student debt, what are we talking about here? Wouldn't it be ironic if one dropped 200K to attend a law school, only to find that one's law school debt might prohibit him/her from using the earned degree? Ouch. I'm guessing we're talking 300K-ish debt and a history of non payment?

blue5385 wrote:

thewuzzles wrote:

blue5385 wrote:1) Standards vary from state to state, but you would probably need to have committed a serious felony to be dinged, provided you disclose everything in full & your out-of-control, felony-committing days are behind you. Also, one random thing that has caused someone to be DQ'ed in the past is excessive student debt.

2) I would be shocked if someone were to be dinged for only this.

Yeah, I think you're probably right. I guess being a whiney quitter (and maybe a bit of a bad ass with a punk rock spirit that just won't be crushed ) shouldn't DQ someone, but it was worth asking.

Regarding excessive student debt, what are we talking about here? Wouldn't it be ironic if one dropped 200K to attend a law school, only to find that one's law school debt might prohibit him/her from using the earned degree? Ouch. I'm guessing we're talking 300K-ish debt and a history of non payment?

I don't remember the exact amount, but I think the guy had over 400k in student debt, and I'm not sure if he defaulted or had a history of non-payment.

ToTransferOrNot wrote:The guy had ~$230k of debt. It took him a few tries to pass the bar, during which time he wasn't able to make payments (nor would anyone else). The loan company dicked him around re: deferment. Then, the loan company shipped the debt off to a collection agency, which tacked nearly $200k worth of penalties on. Then, the New York bar, once the guy finally managed to pass the bar exam, dinged him because he had too much in debt.

It is an absolutely fucking ridiculous case. The guy even has something approaching a biglaw job lined up, for whenever he gets a license. You're essentially talking about debtor's prison here.

If I remember, the guy's last name is Bowman.

ToTransferOrNot wrote:The guy had ~$230k of debt. It took him a few tries to pass the bar, during which time he wasn't able to make payments (nor would anyone else). The loan company dicked him around re: deferment. Then, the loan company shipped the debt off to a collection agency, which tacked nearly $200k worth of penalties on. Then, the New York bar, once the guy finally managed to pass the bar exam, dinged him because he had too much in debt.

It is an absolutely fucking ridiculous case. The guy even has something approaching a biglaw job lined up, for whenever he gets a license. You're essentially talking about debtor's prison here.

If I remember, the guy's last name is Bowman.

ToTransferOrNot wrote:The guy had ~$230k of debt. It took him a few tries to pass the bar, during which time he wasn't able to make payments (nor would anyone else). The loan company dicked him around re: deferment. Then, the loan company shipped the debt off to a collection agency, which tacked nearly $200k worth of penalties on. Then, the New York bar, once the guy finally managed to pass the bar exam, dinged him because he had too much in debt.

It is an absolutely fucking ridiculous case. The guy even has something approaching a biglaw job lined up, for whenever he gets a license. You're essentially talking about debtor's prison here.

If I remember, the guy's last name is Bowman.

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thewuzzles wrote:

FeuerFrei wrote:This thread makes me want Dairy Queen

It's interesting you should say that because in West Virginia, one who has been denied admission to the bar or had his/her license suspended can only reapply after having worked at a Dairy Queen for a year. That's why one is said to have been "DQ'ed" upon suspension or denial of admission. True story, bro.

miamiman wrote:how about things that are just uncouth --- ie a prior life as a stripper/escort?

mikeytwoshoes wrote:

miamiman wrote:how about things that are just uncouth --- ie a prior life as a stripper/escort?

Did you disclose?

miamiman wrote:

mikeytwoshoes wrote:

miamiman wrote:how about things that are just uncouth --- ie a prior life as a stripper/escort?

Did you disclose?

nope. chancing it.

miamiman wrote:

mikeytwoshoes wrote:

miamiman wrote:how about things that are just uncouth --- ie a prior life as a stripper/escort?

Did you disclose?

nope. chancing it.

mmmadeli wrote:I've wondered something similar to this as well -- one of my closest friends in college was charged with a federal felony while we were in school (a computer crimes thing, sort of in the stupid-teenager-shit camp). He eventually plead it down to a misdemeanor by working as an undercover cooperating informant for the FBI for about eighteen months, but he was sentenced and charged and served some time on house arrest and briefly in prison our senior year. The reason I wonder if this is an issue for me is that senior year we were roommates, which means we were on a lease together, and it was a reasonably well-publicized case (though it was more well-publicized in Pennsylvania, where it happened, and not in California where I'll be going to school. But should I worry about the association? He is now a law-abiding citizen, and he was NOT convicted of a felony. And I myself am squeaky-clean.

Foosters Galore wrote:

mmmadeli wrote:I've wondered something similar to this as well -- one of my closest friends in college was charged with a federal felony while we were in school (a computer crimes thing, sort of in the stupid-teenager-shit camp). He eventually plead it down to a misdemeanor by working as an undercover cooperating informant for the FBI for about eighteen months, but he was sentenced and charged and served some time on house arrest and briefly in prison our senior year. The reason I wonder if this is an issue for me is that senior year we were roommates, which means we were on a lease together, and it was a reasonably well-publicized case (though it was more well-publicized in Pennsylvania, where it happened, and not in California where I'll be going to school. But should I worry about the association? He is now a law-abiding citizen, and he was NOT convicted of a felony. And I myself am squeaky-clean.

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