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Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:52 pm
by You Gotta Have Faith
Anyone else out there going through their school's write-on competition right about, oh... now? Feel free to discuss it. Also just curious... how long is your school's competition? I find that they seem to vary in length a little bit.

I would welcome thoughts in particular from 2Ls and 3Ls who wrote-on (rather than graded-on) because you presumably had to go beyond a "good faith effort" to get on. But as always, thoughts from anyone are appreciated :) 2Ls and 3Ls who are reviewing their school's competition... is there anything in particular that you like to see? Any general advice?

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:19 pm
by 270910
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Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:21 pm
by OperaSoprano
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:Anyone else out there going through their school's write-on competition right about, oh... now? Feel free to discuss it. Also just curious... how long is your school's competition? I find that they seem to vary in length a little bit.

I would welcome thoughts in particular from 2Ls and 3Ls who wrote-on (rather than graded-on) because you presumably had to go beyond a "good faith effort" to get on. But as always, thoughts from anyone are appreciated :) 2Ls and 3Ls who are reviewing their school's competition... is there anything in particular that you like to see? Any general advice?

Good luck! Four days for us, but not until the very end of May. May you grade on and not have to worry about it!

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:28 pm
by ak362
As a 1L who went through the write-on process over Spring Break, best of luck to you all.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:32 pm
by arhmcpo
We get 6 weeks for write-on, last day of finals (next week) the write on packet gets released. We get grades in 4 weeks so in theory if you were to make top 10% you wouldn't have to do all the work. I've heard it takes like 2 weeks but I know a guy who made it and only took 3 days. Ours is half blue-booking corrections and half writing piece I think.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:00 pm
by You Gotta Have Faith
OperaSoprano wrote: Good luck! Four days for us, but not until the very end of May. May you grade on and not have to worry about it!
Thanks OS! This is the final stretch of the glorious 1L year, haha.

arhmcpo wrote:We get 6 weeks for write-on, last day of finals (next week) the write on packet gets released. We get grades in 4 weeks so in theory if you were to make top 10% you wouldn't have to do all the work. I've heard it takes like 2 weeks but I know a guy who made it and only took 3 days. Ours is half blue-booking corrections and half writing piece I think.
Holy crap... six weeks?!! I thought ours was longer than the average school out there (being 7 to 10 days), but that is legendary. Yeah, at my school, we must write on before we know our grades. But even if you were #1 overall, they would not let you onto law review at all unless you did the write-on competition. In fact, every 2 or 3 years, someone in the top 10% doesn't make law review since the committee deems their effort as not "good faith" enough.

edited for spelling :o

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:57 pm
by eth3n
six weeks? Ours is six days and apparently you need them all (5 hour energy time).

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:04 pm
by OperaSoprano
Wait, you guys make law review just for a good faith effort, + being in the top 10%? It's top 28 students in a class of 480 for us. :( Keep dreaming, right?

<3 Good luck to you.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:09 pm
by Leeroy Jenkins
I'm loll'ing at the 1-page silly court opinions written by bored judges on meritless appeals

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:20 pm
by Unemployed
Leeroy Jenkins wrote:I'm loll'ing at the 1-page silly court opinions written by bored judges on meritless appeals
As part of your writing competition, I assume? Or are you reading them for fun? If the latter, [strike]you are a loser[/strike] check out this website: --LinkRemoved--

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:21 pm
by Leeroy Jenkins
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Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:39 pm
by You Gotta Have Faith
OperaSoprano wrote:Wait, you guys make law review just for a good faith effort, + being in the top 10%? It's top 28 students in a class of 480 for us. :( Keep dreaming, right?

<3 Good luck to you.
I didn't realize Fordham's class was that big, and that the review was such a small percentage of the class. But in any case, it IS possible! Sure, perhaps rather difficult, but you might as well go for it. :D

I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:42 pm
by Llewellyn
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?
40-ish %, I counted the number of people on the Mastheads because I'm a loser.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:49 pm
by You Gotta Have Faith
Llewellyn wrote:
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?
40-ish %, I counted the number of people on the Mastheads because I'm a loser.
Surely that has to be including all of the possible journals. Not just law review, right?

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:56 pm
by Llewellyn
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:
Llewellyn wrote:
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?
40-ish %, I counted the number of people on the Mastheads because I'm a loser.
Surely that has to be including all of the possible journals. Not just law review, right?
Well then its like 14% :|

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:58 pm
by ZXCVBNM
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:
OperaSoprano wrote:Wait, you guys make law review just for a good faith effort, + being in the top 10%? It's top 28 students in a class of 480 for us. :( Keep dreaming, right?

<3 Good luck to you.
I didn't realize Fordham's class was that big, and that the review was such a small percentage of the class. But in any case, it IS possible! Sure, perhaps rather difficult, but you might as well go for it. :D

I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?
Fordham's LR isn't that small. The top 28 students grade on and then they take another 28 or so through the writing comp.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:41 pm
by hithere
Reading Volokh's Academic Legal Writing as we speak--can't wait for this competition to be over with.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:09 am
by Danteshek
3 days here

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:51 am
by OperaSoprano
ZXCVBNM wrote:
You Gotta Have Faith wrote:
OperaSoprano wrote:Wait, you guys make law review just for a good faith effort, + being in the top 10%? It's top 28 students in a class of 480 for us. :( Keep dreaming, right?

<3 Good luck to you.
I didn't realize Fordham's class was that big, and that the review was such a small percentage of the class. But in any case, it IS possible! Sure, perhaps rather difficult, but you might as well go for it. :D

I don't know the exact number they take for us. But it has to be more than 10%. It's a marathon that has only begun... I won't be done til next week :?
Fordham's LR isn't that small. The top 28 students grade on and then they take another 28 or so through the writing comp.
Yes, that was my understanding, anyway. I assumed we were just talking about rank needed to grade on. I think they said it was 28 grade on and 31 write on spots.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:28 pm
by sanpiero
i guess i'm dreading write-on less after reading this thread: ours is only 33 hours!! :D

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:19 am
by mepg
sanpiero wrote:i guess i'm dreading write-on less after reading this thread: ours is only 33 hours!! :D
It's going to be quick and painful. Do you have a final tomorrow? It is going to hurt having a final tomorrow and then starting at 8 am on Thursday.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:23 am
by sanpiero
mepg wrote:
sanpiero wrote:i guess i'm dreading write-on less after reading this thread: ours is only 33 hours!! :D
It's going to be quick and painful. Do you have a final tomorrow? It is going to hurt having a final tomorrow and then starting at 8 am on Thursday.
Yes andd Yes! good luck! any idea what the format will be? didn't go to the info session :oops:

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:38 am
by snowpeach06
I have a question about what exactly write-on is. I think a tour guide at American said that all you do is take 400 pages of reading and summarize it down to 10. That can't be true can it? That doesn't seem particularly difficult.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:53 am
by SteelReserve
Hey guys, 2L (who am I kidding, I'm an old ass 3L now since I finished finals last week) who made LR via write-on/grade evaluation.

Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck. It was a year ago that I was chilling on my porch pouring over appellate decisions and bluebooking the crap out of my assignment.

If you want any advice, I suppose I would remind you to carefully follow the instructions like a soldier listens to his drill sergeant. Bluebook well by skimming the table of contents.

Your essay will be made by your introductory paragraphs, so ensure there are absolutely ZERO errors therein.

And snowpeach06, no, you don't summarize a bunch of reading at least at most schools; instead you read the decisions/articles and make a coherent argument while following the instructions. The tour guide sounds like a bitter bottom half of the class kid who flunked the write-on and is now unable to secure gainful legal employment.

Re: Write-On Support Group

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:35 am
by chitown825
We have three weeks, and it's a pretty long assignment. I'm not too happy, but I gotta do it anyways.