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I'm somewhat frustrated with SOP. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the rest of Con Law (because it seems that there are straight forwards tests for DCC, P&I, Preemption, CC, etc), so I'm just hoping someone can help push me over this last hurdle. Are you supposed to apply the Youngstown analysis just to those questions where the President is attempting to exert power in an area shared by another branch? What is the analysis that is expected of you for topics like (1) appointment and removal, (2) executive privileges and immunities, and (3) foreign policy/war powers? Please let me know. Thanks!

Outlawed wrote:I'm somewhat frustrated with SOP. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the rest of Con Law (because it seems that there are straight forwards tests for DCC, P&I, Preemption, CC, etc), so I'm just hoping someone can help push me over this last hurdle. Are you supposed to apply the Youngstown analysis just to those questions where the President is attempting to exert power in an area shared by another branch? What is the analysis that is expected of you for topics like (1) appointment and removal, (2) executive privileges and immunities, and (3) foreign policy/war powers? Please let me know. Thanks!

Bernie will fill you in soon.

mikeytwoshoes wrote:

Outlawed wrote:I'm somewhat frustrated with SOP. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the rest of Con Law (because it seems that there are straight forwards tests for DCC, P&I, Preemption, CC, etc), so I'm just hoping someone can help push me over this last hurdle. Are you supposed to apply the Youngstown analysis just to those questions where the President is attempting to exert power in an area shared by another branch? What is the analysis that is expected of you for topics like (1) appointment and removal, (2) executive privileges and immunities, and (3) foreign policy/war powers? Please let me know. Thanks!

Bernie will fill you in soon.

I just let out an obnoxiously loud laugh in the school computer lab and got some dirty looks. Thank you, sir.

Outlawed wrote:I'm somewhat frustrated with SOP. I think I have a fairly good understanding of the rest of Con Law (because it seems that there are straight forwards tests for DCC, P&I, Preemption, CC, etc), so I'm just hoping someone can help push me over this last hurdle. Are you supposed to apply the Youngstown analysis just to those questions where the President is attempting to exert power in an area shared by another branch? What is the analysis that is expected of you for topics like (1) appointment and removal, (2) executive privileges and immunities, and (3) foreign policy/war powers? Please let me know. Thanks!

You probably want to apply Youngstown to any fact pattern that contains the word "President" and "Congress" in the same paragraph. Jackson's concurring opinion is the law on this, but you might pick up a point by dropping in a line applying the rule from the majority opinion, which if memory serves me, is basically "No inherent powers for the president."

I'm pretty sure the Jackson analysis applies to all the topics you mentioned.

I may be wrong on any of this, as I've already wiped Con Law from my memory until I prep for the bar.

Thanks Stab. I agree that Youngstown is the start of the analysis, though I've only seen it referenced as the starting point of analysis for Hamdi. Any other takers care to enlighten me on SOP analysis in the areas I mentioned above?