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Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:32 pm
by 270910
No optimism and no reason. As far as I can tell, 99%+ of the 1Ls I know on this board and IRL feel like everything is going to hell, exams are horrible, performance will never repeat, etc.
Self loathe with me!
(changed 'ITT' to 'Pennoyer' to keep 0Ls / the lounge out. It's a total non sequitur. Pennoyer is like a "why did we do this to ourselves" law student shibboleth)
Re: ITT: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:37 pm
by mikeytwoshoes
disco_barred wrote:ITT
I thought we talked about this and its contingencies.
Re: ITT: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:38 pm
by 270910
mikeytwoshoes wrote:disco_barred wrote:ITT
I thought we talked about this and its contingencies.
Fixed. That should keep them out.
Re: ITT: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:38 pm
by 270910
betasteve wrote:disco_barred wrote:No optimism and no reason. As far as I can tell, 99%+ of the 1Ls I know on this board and IRL feel like everything is going to hell, exams are horrible, performance will never repeat, etc.
Self loathe with me!
Are you reading my MIND???
Like shooting fish in a barrel. The point of this thread is for us to realize that if every single law student who did well expects to bomb, we probably won't (see, e.g., the 2Ls/3Ls on the board)
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:41 pm
by pany1985
It's sort of terrible the way doing well actually increases your stress level by making it harder to maintain your position
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:41 pm
by Bankhead
Everything has gone to shit. My exam writing skills seem to have escaped me.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:42 pm
by Leeroy Jenkins
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:42 pm
by 270910
Bankhead wrote:Everything has gone to shit. My exam writing skills seem to have escaped me.
Exactly. Fuck this noise.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:44 pm
by 270910
(changed 'ITT' to 'Pennoyer' to keep 0Ls / the lounge out. It's a total non sequitur. Pennoyer is like a "why did we do this to ourselves" law student shibboleth )
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:48 pm
by tomhobbes
Nice try. Hey can I havew some LSAT advice?
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:50 pm
by BobSacamano
I feel right at home in this thread. I can't talk about it with... well, anybody in real life, because I don't want to sound like a huge douche, but I'm probably twice as stressed this semester as last. I can't fathom how I will get three A's this semester, which I'll need to maintain my GPA. I keep thinking "one missed issue and there goes your law review invite!" And with the law review invite goes my job. What if last semester was a total fluke? What if everyone adjusted to law school and I didn't? What if my exam writing abilities aren't actually that great, and I just got by on multiple choice, which I don't have this semester?
Last semester I was just hoping to hit median keep my scholarship. My expectations are unreasonably high this semester.

Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:52 pm
by 270910
BobSacamano wrote:I feel right at home in this thread. I can't talk about it with... well, anybody in real life, because I don't want to sound like a huge douche, but I'm probably twice as stressed this semester as last. I can't fathom how I will get three A's this semester, which I'll need to maintain my GPA. I keep thinking "one missed issue and there goes your law review invite!" And with the law review invite goes my job. What if last semester was a total fluke? What if everyone adjusted to law school and I didn't? What if my exam writing abilities aren't actually that great, and I just got by on multiple choice, which I don't have this semester?
Last semester I was just hoping to hit median keep my scholarship. My expectations are unreasonably high this semester.

Exactly. I had a feeling that this feeling was a pervasive feeling.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:56 pm
by Leeroy Jenkins
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:57 pm
by 270910
Leeroy Jenkins wrote:disco_barred wrote:(changed 'ITT' to 'Pennoyer' to keep 0Ls / the lounge out. It's a total non sequitur. Pennoyer is like a "why did we do this to ourselves" law student shibboleth )
There once was a man named Neff
Who before his timely death,
Didn't pay his lawyer to his chagrin
Who decided to sue to recover
But the Court said "Why bother?
You can only sue those in person":
A feature of the law student shibboleth.
What have we become

Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:08 am
by BunkMoreland
the worst part is I don't think my fears are irrational.
I was top ten-fifteen percent last semester...how bad could I possibly fall? Median? *gulp*
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:09 am
by 270910
BunkMoreland wrote:the worst part is I don't think my fears are irrational.
I was top ten-fifteen percent last semester...how bad could I possibly fall? Median? *gulp*
I think the only way to realize the fear is irrational is to see how universal it is.
Maybe TToN or similarly situated 2/3Ls will swing by to soothe our nervous souls :-/
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:11 am
by Leeroy Jenkins
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:14 am
by mikeytwoshoes
Leeroy Jenkins wrote:disco_barred wrote:BunkMoreland wrote:the worst part is I don't think my fears are irrational.
I was top ten-fifteen percent last semester...how bad could I possibly fall? Median? *gulp*
I think the only way to realize the fear is irrational is to see how universal it is.
Maybe TToN or similarly situated 2/3Ls will swing by to soothe our nervous souls :-/
You ever wonder why there are so few 2/3Ls on these boards?
The m311 effect?
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:16 am
by Leeroy Jenkins
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Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:16 am
by dresden doll
Call me heartless, but I'd have more sympathy for a person that did badly last semester and is now clinging to hope that things will go over much, much better the second time around.
Boo-hoo-hoo for top 10 percent kids that feel like /self at the thought of sinking to median.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:19 am
by 270910
Was m311 the one who would get into like 500 page arguments about Ks with Vanwinkle?
I still miss Snooker more...
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:22 am
by Mal
dresden doll wrote:Call me heartless, but I'd have more sympathy for a person that did badly last semester and is now clinging to hope that things will go over much, much better the second time around.
Boo-hoo-hoo for top 10 percent kids that feel like /self at the thought of sinking to median.
Not all of us are at a top6 love.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:24 am
by dresden doll
Mal wrote:dresden doll wrote:Call me heartless, but I'd have more sympathy for a person that did badly last semester and is now clinging to hope that things will go over much, much better the second time around.
Boo-hoo-hoo for top 10 percent kids that feel like /self at the thought of sinking to median.
Not all of us are at a top6 love.
True enough.
What's also true is that it's generally unwise to attend a school where you can't afford to graduate at median. Odds = not in your favor.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:25 am
by mikeytwoshoes
disco_barred wrote:Was m311 the one who would get into like 500 page arguments about Ks with Vanwinkle?
I still miss Snooker more...
M311 thought that every act of part performance created another option contract. Good times.
Re: Pennoyer: irrational fears of 1Ls who did well last semester
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:26 am
by 270910
Mal wrote:dresden doll wrote:Call me heartless, but I'd have more sympathy for a person that did badly last semester and is now clinging to hope that things will go over much, much better the second time around.
Boo-hoo-hoo for top 10 percent kids that feel like /self at the thought of sinking to median.
Not all of us are at a top6 love.
While I too have more sympathy for those folks, the whole point of this website is overachievement
