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1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:30 pm
by arundodonax
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Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:12 pm
by emoticons777
I think you need to break down the poll more. 25-50 is a fairly large gap.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:14 pm
by jetlagz28
50% here.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:47 pm
by JPeavy44
emoticons777 wrote:I think you need to break down the poll more. 25-50 is a fairly large gap.
agreed
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:12 am
by acdisagod
I'm a little skeptical of the 1-5% numbers.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:29 am
by Sauer Grapes
Wow.. even though you can't count on this poll being accurate, I'm surprised just how many high achievers we have here. I guess it shows, in part, how great of a resource this website is, as well as the caliber of students that are drawn to this website.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:38 am
by sky7
I call baloney on the 1-5%. Yes, there are smart people here. But smart people generally end up going to top schools. Where there, amazingly, are other smart people. I doubt that many are in the top 5%.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:41 am
by patrickd139
sky7 wrote:I call baloney on the 1-5%. Yes, there are smart people here. But smart people generally end up going to top schools. Where there, amazingly, are other smart people. I doubt that many are in the top 5%.
It's ok man. Statistically, 95% of us have to be in the bottom 95%. It could be argued that we're still relevant, irrespective of our rank.

Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:49 am
by RVP11
Why would someone lie on an anonymous poll?
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:52 am
by T14_Scholly
^Because people are weird.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:54 am
by 270910
I believe it. People who do well are likely to be attracted to the site and to stay on the law student's forum. It's been obvious from lurking on the forum that a substantial portion of the regulars are at the very top of their class.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:01 am
by apper123
disco_barred wrote:I believe it. People who do well are likely to be attracted to the site and to stay on the law student's forum. It's been obvious from lurking on the forum that a substantial portion of the regulars are at the very top of their class.
Yep.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:06 am
by T14_Scholly
disco_barred wrote:People who do well are likely to be attracted to the site and to stay on the law student's forum.
Why?
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:31 am
by 270910
T14_Scholly wrote:disco_barred wrote:People who do well are likely to be attracted to the site and to stay on the law student's forum.
Why?
You new here? It just sort of plays out that way. The transfer forum is littered with top 10%+ people ready to transfer. I'm sure the cause and effect is complex and hard to parse out, but if you spend any time browsing legal employment, law students, and transfers you begin to realize how 'top of the class' heavy the population is.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:02 pm
by T14_Scholly
I'll take your word for it, ignore all the not-so-smart people and bad advice I've seen on here, and assume that one third of all those who stay on TLS after the application process are destined for the top 5% of their class.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:04 pm
by RVP11
People who are on TLS a lot must be thinking about law school a lot. I don't understand why the correlation is so hard to see. When you're not blinded by skepticism, at least.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:06 pm
by T14_Scholly
Everyone I know who is applying to law school thinks about law school a lot.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:11 pm
by rando
People at the top of their class like to be reaffirmed how great they are. Look in on the proles and supply their infinite wisdom.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:25 pm
by RVP11
T14_Scholly wrote:Everyone I know who is applying to law school thinks about law school a lot.
Talk to people 3, 6, and 12 months into it.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:31 pm
by NayBoer
There's little incentive to lie, but is there all that much incentive to be truthful?
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:34 pm
by Mroberts3
JSUVA2012 wrote:People who are on TLS a lot must be thinking about law school a lot. I don't understand why the correlation is so hard to see. When you're not blinded by skepticism, at least.
I can definitively see the correlation, and I have no trouble believing that TLSers do very well in law school. However, the nature of this poll and its small sample size make it hard to believe. As someone mentioned before: TLSers go to good schools where there are other smart people -- not everyone can be in the top 5%.
Would I agree that more than 5% of TLSers are in the top 5% at their school? Sure. Is it the case that 30% of TLSers (even assuming 100% honesty in the poll) are in the top 5%? Almost certainly not.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:39 pm
by DoubleChecks
Mroberts3 wrote:JSUVA2012 wrote:People who are on TLS a lot must be thinking about law school a lot. I don't understand why the correlation is so hard to see. When you're not blinded by skepticism, at least.
I can definitively see the correlation, and I have no trouble believing that TLSers do very well in law school. However, the nature of this poll and its small sample size make it hard to believe. As someone mentioned before: TLSers go to good schools where there are other smart people -- not everyone can be in the top 5%.
Would I agree that more than 5% of TLSers are in the top 5% at their school? Sure. Is it the case that 30% of TLSers (even assuming 100% honesty in the poll) are in the top 5%? Almost certainly not.
i also dont think there's that many TLSers who are in the top 5% of their class, but for obvious reasons, the crowd TLS tends to draw is of a higher caliber (relatively speaking)...so i think a very high amount of TLSers are in the top 5% of their classes. 30%+ just seems to high for me, but just a bit lower and it is very believable. why would a lot of ppl lie on an anonymous poll? lol
hell, we often get top of the class (rank 1) students of T14 or ish schools posting on here asking about transfers or clerkships or whatever...what are the chances multiple top 1 rank students would come find TLS? i would have thought low, but these are all legit so...
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:44 pm
by Ragged
I wonder what percent of TLSer is in T14. Then we can see whether 30% in top 5% is reasonable.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:52 pm
by 270910
Are those of you skeptical of the %age 0Ls?
As a 1L, it was pretty clear that basically the ONLY regular posters on the students forum kicked ass and took names. Note that I said regular posters. i.e. those most likely to pop in and vote in a poll.
I am not for a second skeptical of the claim, and think it reflects extremely strongly on the collective wisdom you can find - and apply - here on TLS.
Re: 1L+ TLS'ers, where were you in your first year class rank?
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:58 pm
by Arrow
If this is true, I have to say that about half of TLS (48%) being in the top 10% is pretty intimidating if not superbly impressive. This quite the gathering of intellectuals (in theory)!