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I bombed at BC/BU/Fordham/GW this semester. I have a 2.886 (b+ and 2 b-'s)

median is a 3.316 and top 10 is 3.643. any way to figure out about where i am?

I know i'm most likely bottom 10, i'd just like to know what the math says

The math says 2.989 is bottom 10 percent. Sorry math doesn't lie.

Man I dunno whats better, my schools median is like 2.5

nm

thesealocust wrote:

orov wrote:I bombed at BC/BU/Fordham/GW this semester. I have a 2.886 (b+ and 2 b-'s)

median is a 3.316 and top 10 is 3.643. any way to figure out about where i am?

I know I'm most likely bottom 10, i'd just like to know what the math says

Math here, always happy to help:

Median = 3.316. Top 10% is .327 more than that.

(Standard deviation) (z-score for top 10%) = .327

SD = .327 / 1.28 = 0.255

3.316 - 2.886 = .43, .43 / 0.255 = 1.68 standard deviations below the mean.

That is roughly speaking bottom 5%

Have you done this for UVA? I know 3.3 = median, 3.4 = about top 33%, 3.5 = about top 25%, and 3.7 = top 7%, but I'd be curious to know the 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, etc.

thesealocust wrote:

orov wrote:I bombed at BC/BU/Fordham/GW this semester. I have a 2.886 (b+ and 2 b-'s)

median is a 3.316 and top 10 is 3.643. any way to figure out about where i am?

I know I'm most likely bottom 10, i'd just like to know what the math says

Math here, always happy to help:

Median = 3.316. Top 10% is .327 more than that.

(Standard deviation) (z-score for top 10%) = .327

SD = .327 / 1.28 = 0.255

3.316 - 2.886 = .43, .43 / 0.255 = 1.68 standard deviations below the mean.

That is roughly speaking bottom 5%

You! The use of math is disallowed for telling people things like that.

nm

Paging Thesealocust or Rayiner (or whoever can help)!

Last year's numbers were (this is for the current 2Ls after their 1st year):

top 10%: 3.76

Top 33%: 3.50

top 50%: 3.29.

Is there anyway to figure out the cutoff for top 25% and top 5%? My school's website says we curve to a 3.2 or 3.3, and that:
35% get A or A-
55% get B+, B, or B-
10% get anything less. but there is an acceptable 4% change in either direction for each category (A's could be 31% or 39% for example).

There is also a required mean requirement of 3.25, with a range of 3.2 to 3.3 permitted. Thanks for any help.

nm

No, UNC. I agree the numbers are huge, all the A's must go to the same people. Thanks a lot sealocust!

Some help would be appreciated! This one is a bit trickier.

The old curve was 2.85 and came out like this

Top 10%: 3.54
Top 25%: 3.29
Top 33%: 3.23
Top 50%: 3.07
Top 75%: 2.77

The curve is now 3.05. Where does a 3.5 gpa land me?

simple plug and chug. Has no one learned about the z statistics?

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Depending on your school (eg: NU) your curve may not be normally distributed. For most schools, the upper tail is very spread out and the lower tail is very bunched-up.

is there any way to figure out how gpa correlates to rank if the rank is unpublished until after graduation?

all i have is the target median for curved classes, which is 3.19 (this is for michigan). and i haven't been able to find another data point to figure it out.. any help?

rayiner wrote:Depending on your school (eg: NU) your curve may not be normally distributed. For most schools, the upper tail is very spread out and the lower tail is very bunched-up.

So can somebody translate this for me? Does this mean that at NU, you can't use the standard deviation to determine the top 5% grade cutoff? Also, how do you know if you are at a school in which the curve is not normally distributed?

edit for spelling

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How about median and top-third for NYU?

A+: 0-2% (target = 1%)
A: 7-13% (target = 10%)
A-: 16-24% (target = 20%)
Maximum for A tier = 31%
B+: 22-30% (target = 26%)
Maximum grades above B = 57%
B: remainder
B-: 4-8% (target = 6%)
C/D/F: 0-5%

Is there enough information or do we need to know something about the correlation between an individual's grade in one class to his grade in another class?

(even if there is a way to calculate we'd seemingly need to fix the boundaries for each grade... probably best to go with the target numbers, right?)

If each class curves to 3.2, is the overall median going to be a 3.2? Sorry, I don't remember shit from stats.

Awesome thread everyone...btw, sorry op.

Here are some useful cutoffs (as a matter of statistics, they should mirror below the mean, so bottom 40% should very roughly speaking be as far below the mean as top 40% is above it):
Code:
5% 3.776
10% 3.648
15% 3.583
25% 3.483
33% 3.420
40% 3.369
50% 3.300

sealocust, you're very helpful as usual. what if i want to know my exact %? is it too difficult for a non-math-genius like me to figure it out?

and i think you mentioned that the uva curve shouldn't change. is that just because the b+ median is so strict and professors rarely deviate very much from their own/the enforced distributions around it, or is there something more to that?

thanks!

Right. I'm not letting any of you guys near my grade distribution when all my grades are in. I just don't want to know!

Also, OP is not one of my classmates, because we curve to ~3.19. Failcurve.

nm

sealocust, you're awesome. i figured it out. and that makes sense about the curve... thanks so much.