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Below is my summary of what stats make you competitive for transfer. These are not guaranteed stats, but they are competitive and worth the application.

Yale/Stanford
T14: Top 10%
T1: Top 5%
T2: Top 1%
TTT: Not happening
TTTT: Not happening

Harvard:
T14: Top 15%
T1: Top 10%
T2: Top 5%
TTT: Top of your class
TTTT: Not happening

Columbia/NYU/Chicago/Penn
T14: Top 25%
T1: Top 10%
T2: Top 5%
TTT: Top 1%
TTTT: Not happening

Michigan/Northwestern
T1: Top 15%
T2: Top 10%
TTT: Top 5%
TTTT: Top 1%

Georgetown
T1: Top 20%
T2: Top 15%
TTT: Top 10%
TTTT: Top 5%

Berkeley/UVA/Duke/Cornell:

These places either don't take many transfers and they appear to favor instate residents or home state residents (i.e., from California but currently in law school somewhere else). Generally, follow the guidelines for the CLS/NYU/Chi/Penn tier for these schools. Cornell is mostly a waste, though, so it's really not even worth including ITT but I did anyway.

From all the research I've done on these fora, this seems pretty spot on!

Thanks!

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Nebby=TLS Transfer forum MVP!

I would add two things:

(1) Stanford seems to be among the schools that offer a considerable "bump" to candidates that either have CA ties, or are currently at a CA law school.

(2) If you want to have a real shot at Yale, and you are not currently at a T14, you better be both number 1 in your class, and have done something spectacular, like coauthoring a LR article w/ a prof during your 1L year (George Mason transfer from a couple years ago).

Nebby wrote:Below is my summary of what stats make you competitive for transfer. These are not guaranteed stats, but they are competitive and worth the application.

Yale/Stanford
T14: Top 10%
T1: Top 5%
T2: Top 1%
TTT: Not happening

That's not true for SLS. What are you basing your information on?

Nebby wrote: Columbia/NYU/Chicago/Penn
T14: Top 25%
T1: Top 10%
T2: Top 5%
TTT: Top 1%
TTTT: Not happening

That's not true either.

I'm giving general advice, broseph. I have never seen a TTTT go to CLS in the two years I've paid attention.

Besides nothing is impossible but most people would be best with realistic expectations not unicorn expectations, Mr. Pumpkin

Can you clarify why Cornell is a waste? Is it because it's a small class size and/or that they don't accept many transfers?

Cornell says on their site that they take five to ten transfers a year (probably depending on how many transfer out based on their phrasing) and most are top 10% of their class.

hopefuljumbo23 wrote:Can you clarify why Cornell is a waste? Is it because it's a small class size and/or that they don't accept many transfers?

Also curious..

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ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

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ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

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Mr.F wrote:

ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

I don't entirely think so. If you want NYC biglawl and you don't have the numbers to get into CCN or Penn, they might be one of your better choices. When I got my bid list, it looked like most firms were there.

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Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

I don't entirely think so. If you want NYC biglawl and you don't have the numbers to get into CCN or Penn, they might be one of your better choices. When I got my bid list, it looked like most firms were there.

And if you're accepted after a certain date, you're fucked. It's not worth it.

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Mr.F wrote:

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

I don't entirely think so. If you want NYC biglawl and you don't have the numbers to get into CCN or Penn, they might be one of your better choices. When I got my bid list, it looked like most firms were there.

And if you're accepted after a certain date, you're fucked. It's not worth it.

No... you just go somewhere else or stay. All you lose is the app fee.

Mr.F wrote:

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

I don't entirely think so. If you want NYC biglawl and you don't have the numbers to get into CCN or Penn, they might be one of your better choices. When I got my bid list, it looked like most firms were there.

And if you're accepted after a certain date, you're fucked. It's not worth it.

No... you just go somewhere else or stay. All you lose is the app fee.

Cornell is a waste. They don't care about transfers. It's cold. You have a better experience at any other t14

I got an interview request email from Cornell. It's the same type of interview that NU gives (pre-recorded questions). I think I'll do it, but if there is no chance for OCI, then I won't even consider attending.

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

Nebby wrote:

Mr.F wrote:

ladybug1989 wrote:Cornell takes very few transfers and those who are admitted can't participate in OCI.

The OP list is a good general idea for those who are thinking of transferring, but if you are unsure I'd still apply. Anything can happen. I've done extensive research on this forum, and have seen people get into their dream law school's with ridiculous stats. E.g., T4 top 20% to Michigan, T4 to Duke, T4 top 3% to Berkeley, etc.

This is not true. If you are admitted early enough, you can participate in AJF. Most decisions go out after this, but some are soon enough to participate.

So it's still a waste

I don't entirely think so. If you want NYC biglawl and you don't have the numbers to get into CCN or Penn, they might be one of your better choices. When I got my bid list, it looked like most firms were there.

And if you're accepted after a certain date, you're fucked. It's not worth it.

No... you just go somewhere else or stay. All you lose is the app fee.

Cornell is a waste. They don't care about transfers. It's cold. You have a better experience at any other t14

Who cares about how they treat transfers? 90% of the reason you transfer is to get access to their OCI. If you can at Cornell, then it's worth it.