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2015 509s are Out

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:43 pm
by clshopeful
So ABA just released all 2015 ABA 509's... So we now have the most up to date transfer statistics. No huge changes except Northwestern took significantly fewer (and only regional) transfers this time around.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:45 am
by barkschool
http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

I always plan on looking at these hoping to find something ground breaking, like who are the 16 people who transferred to Utah.

Top 30 Transfers In, if anyone is interested;
  • GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY 110
    GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY 109
    ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY 65
    HARVARD UNIVERSITY 55
    EMORY UNIVERSITY 51
    NEW YORK UNIVERSITY 51
    CALIFORNIA-BERKELEY, UNIVERSITY OF 49
    RUTGERS UNIVERSITY 45
    COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY 44
    MIAMI, UNIVERSITY OF 44
    CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES, UNIVERSITY OF 43
    TEXAS AT AUSTIN, UNIVERSITY OF 37
    AMERICAN UNIVERSITY 33
    FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY 32
    MINNESOTA, UNIVERSITY OF 31
    RUTGERS UNIVERSITY-CAMDEN 31
    HOUSTON, UNIVERSITY OF 26
    FLORIDA, UNIVERSITY OF 25
    NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY 25
    FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY 24
    CHICAGO, UNIVERSITY OF 23
    CALIFORNIA-HASTINGS, UNIVERSITY OF 20
    MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY 20
    SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY 20
    CARDOZO SCHOOL OF LAW 19
    BOSTON COLLEGE 18
    HOFSTRA UNIVERSITY 18
    ATLANTA'S JOHN MARSHALL LAW SHOOL 17
    LOYOLA MARYMOUNT UNIVERSITY-LOS ANGELES 17

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:59 am
by Clemenceau
Look at all those sweet, sweet tuition dollars

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:33 am
by Tiago Splitter
ASU just pillaging Arizona Summit. What a strategy.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:33 am
by jbagelboy
There are 17 transfers into John Marshall?

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:35 am
by clshopeful
I count 19 for Northwestern?

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:38 am
by clshopeful
Side note: congrats to all who just finished/finishing finals

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:45 am
by Hand
All us GULC students are proud that, despite the stiff competition from GW, we won again this year!

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:47 am
by Br3v
100+ people go to GULC? I thought their class was already like 500

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:34 pm
by RaceJudicata
Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm
by n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
It also depends what school you're coming from. I was below 50th percentile (much closer to 25th) for CCN and got in from a T20. I highly doubt my LOR was amazing.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:21 pm
by Good Guy Gaud
Tiago Splitter wrote:ASU just pillaging Arizona Summit. What a strategy.

lol

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:26 pm
by lavarman84
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:54 pm
by RaceJudicata
n1o2c3a4c5h6e7t wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
It also depends what school you're coming from. I was below 50th percentile (much closer to 25th) for CCN and got in from a T20. I highly doubt my LOR was amazing.
Fair point. T2 school (strong regional though) shooting for T6-10 area. Top 5-10ish% of class. Again, owell... Honestly, thankful that several people in my range were able to transfer.. made my oci a bit more accessible.

Those looking to transfer this summer --> good luck, keep those grades up!

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:04 pm
by butlerraider1
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:48 am
by clshopeful
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:41 pm
by juzam_djinn
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:59 pm
by Nebby
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:48 pm
by clshopeful
Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515
gg

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:46 pm
by NoDayButToday
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Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:22 pm
by juzam_djinn
clshopeful wrote:
Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515
gg
exactly. #1 at a T1 is very diff than #1 at a T3

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:10 pm
by juzam_djinn
Nebby wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
butlerraider1 wrote:
lawman84 wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
I know how you feel. My GPA was well above CLS's 75% at a T1 school and I didn't get in. Have no idea what I did wrong. :lol:

Things have worked out just fine for me and I'm happy I stayed...but it still bothers me that I got rejected because I wish I knew the reason.
Feel the need to add to this lol. I am all set with a job so I'm not too upset anymore but seeing this data definitely brought back some disappointment. People from way worse schools got into schools I got denied from even though I was ranked #1. I understand I'm not entitled to get in anywhere just based on my grades - I must have had a shitty PS or LoR's - but yeah, I just wish I knew why.

You were #1 at T1?... I have no idea how you didn't get into CLS... I'd say HLS was almost a lock. Wtf?
where did he say he was at a T1? Also, are you you or are you your brother?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p8653515
yup, as I thought. T3 not T1

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:32 pm
by ManoftheHour
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.
Isn't this the biggest blessing in disguise by saving you $100k+? I mean, it's one thing if you struck out, but you didn't. I think you won law school.

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:33 am
by Companion Cube
NoDayButToday wrote:I'm curious how much longer transfer admissions will continue with such minimal regulation from ABA / notice from USNWR. Don't get me wrong, I'm really glad I was able to transfer, and I'm really glad that option existed. But it's also a little surprising that there hasn't been that much official notice or more data than just the mid-50 percentiles and outgoing school from the 509s. Fifty plus transfers to even a big school is a SIGNIFICANT percentage increase in class size.

Again - not complaining, especially as that's how big my transfer class was - just surprised!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Re: 2015 509s are Out

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:44 am
by Nebby
RaceJudicata wrote:Thankfully OCI worked out and i didn't end up transferring... but jesus. Applied to transfer at two schools, above BOTH school's 75% transfer GPA, and didnt get either. Not too bitter cause of how it worked out, but would have likely had a lot less stressful fall.

ETA: must have had some glaring flaw on app/letter of rec/something.. who knows
Last year when they first started posting transfer GPAs on 509s, my first complaint was that a GPA doesn't give you good predictive value at all, because the median at one school can be up to .2 or .3 different, and someone with a 3.6 could be top 10% at one place, and top 33% at another, and the top 10% person would have a lot better shot than the latter.