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Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:44 am
by Anonymous User
Does anyone have any insight on how transfers fare at Cornell v. Michigan with regards to employment? For Michigan, I believe that they think that transfers won't do well there - which is why they make a big to-do about how awesome their transfers are and the specific jobs they received. According to Law School Transparency, Cornell places approximately 22% more of its class in biglaw + fedclerk than Michigan.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:01 am
by mister logical
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Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:08 am
by Backpacker
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how transfers fare at Cornell v. Michigan with regards to employment? For Michigan, I believe that they think that transfers won't do well there - which is why they make a big to-do about how awesome their transfers are and the specific jobs they received. According to Law School Transparency, Cornell places approximately 22% more of its class in biglaw + fedclerk than Michigan.
I think its the opposite...

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:11 am
by sandwhich
Backpacker wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how transfers fare at Cornell v. Michigan with regards to employment? For Michigan, I believe that they think that transfers won't do well there - which is why they make a big to-do about how awesome their transfers are and the specific jobs they received. According to Law School Transparency, Cornell places approximately 22% more of its class in biglaw + fedclerk than Michigan.
I think its the opposite...
No I think he's right based on the face of the LST reports

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/ ... n/cornell/

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:15 am
by Backpacker
sandwhich wrote:
Backpacker wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any insight on how transfers fare at Cornell v. Michigan with regards to employment? For Michigan, I believe that they think that transfers won't do well there - which is why they make a big to-do about how awesome their transfers are and the specific jobs they received. According to Law School Transparency, Cornell places approximately 22% more of its class in biglaw + fedclerk than Michigan.
I think its the opposite...
No I think he's right based on the face of the LST reports

http://www.lstscorereports.com/compare/ ... n/cornell/
Wasn't referring to that, should have more specifically quoted "For Michigan, I believe that they think that transfers won't do well there - which is why they make a big to-do about how awesome their transfers are and the specific jobs they received."

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:16 am
by Trippel
Go with the one that admits you in time for OCI.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:17 am
by Anonymous User
If already admitted, both Cornell + Michigan allow transfers to take part in OCI. Anyway, what I'm trying to figure out is if there is any prestige difference between the two and why Michigan is higher ranked despite having employment scores that are so bad(even compared to Duke, Berkeley, etc). For fedclerk purposes, is Michigan considered more "prestigious"? Would it be better to go to Cornell because of the higher placement rate in case one is unable to clerk eventually?

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:53 pm
by Trippel
The LST link (posted above) indicates Michigan and Cornell have comparable federal clerkship numbers. Where do you want to practice after LS? Are you okay with NYC?

I think Cornell is a better option, but I also go there.

TLS is full of criticism of US News' methodology. If library size, etc. is important to you, go to Michigan. I could be wrong, but I think Ithaca has already reached prestige whore capacity.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:02 pm
by Anonymous User
With regards to location, I both have strong preferences but am also eminently pragmatic.

I realize that NYC is the easiest biglaw market in the country, however, that doesn't mean I have to like living in the city. I find NYC to be crowded, smelly, high-cost, high-tax, low-quality-of-life, etc etc. But, I'd be willing to live there (or in NJ taking the train in to Penn station in the morning) if it meant I could go in-house at Exxon in Dallas in two years and start collecting those corporate stock options. Ideally, I'd love to work in Texas but if I have to serve a 2 year sentence in NYC, so be it.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:41 pm
by chuckbass
mister logical wrote:Cornell doesn't allow transfers to take part in OCI. Something to consider.
This is false. In the past, Cornell usually didn't admit people in time to bid, but now has been accepting people in time for OCI.

OP, Cornell clearly has better employment stats, so I'd say go with Cornell.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:49 pm
by mister logical
scottidsntknow wrote:
mister logical wrote:Cornell doesn't allow transfers to take part in OCI. Something to consider.
This is false. In the past, Cornell usually didn't admit people in time to bid, but now has been accepting people in time for OCI.

OP, Cornell clearly has better employment stats, so I'd say go with Cornell.

My appologies, they updated the website since I looked at it last. scottidsntknow is correct and I'll go back and edit my response.

Re: Cornell or Michigan?

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:39 pm
by w7ldcard
Anonymous User wrote:With regards to location, I both have strong preferences but am also eminently pragmatic.

I realize that NYC is the easiest biglaw market in the country, however, that doesn't mean I have to like living in the city. I find NYC to be crowded, smelly, high-cost, high-tax, low-quality-of-life, etc etc. But, I'd be willing to live there (or in NJ taking the train in to Penn station in the morning) if it meant I could go in-house at Exxon in Dallas in two years and start collecting those corporate stock options. Ideally, I'd love to work in Texas but if I have to serve a 2 year sentence in NYC, so be it.
OP would you mind sharing the timeline Cornell took to get back to you? Like from Complete to acceptance?