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Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:59 am
by Anonymous User
Application now open.

Link to 2014 thread http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 7&t=231202

Good luck everyone!

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:06 pm
by Ken Kesey
What is this Education information section?

"1. Briefly describe any written work you’ve produced (e.g., college-level or higher papers, articles, theses, etc., with multiple revisions in response to feedback) under the supervision of an academic advisor or professional editor. (maximum characters 300)"

What are some examples of what they're looking for?

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:11 pm
by MagicMike80
I wrote about my undergrad thesis and 1L LRW papers.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:39 pm
by Nebby
Peace upon the brave souls ITT. Good luck!

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:52 pm
by AT9
Checking in. Hail Mary - top 5% at a lower T1. Really the only school I would definitely go I if I get in. Good luck everyone!

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:52 pm
by georgej
I guess I'm in. Good luck everyone.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:47 pm
by Anonymous User
Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:15 pm
by CanadianWolf
Why do you all want to transfer out of Harvard ?

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:40 am
by Ken Kesey
MagicMike80 wrote:I wrote about my undergrad thesis and 1L LRW papers.
But since everyone applying has to write the 1L papers, isn't it useless to talk about?

Also we couldn't get any feedback to revise our 1L papers, so I guess I'll just stick to my UG thesis.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:03 pm
by sandwhich
How are you guys going about the UG certification? Email to registrar who will then mail to HLS directly? It seems the other option would be to have them put the sealed envelop in another envelope (lol) to send back to you to then forward to HLS. Which, based on their website, it seems like that's what H wants you to do.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:08 pm
by Nebby
sandwhich wrote:How are you guys going about the UG certification? Email to registrar who will then mail to HLS directly? It seems the other option would be to have them put the sealed envelop in another envelope (lol) to send back to you to then forward to HLS. Which, based on their website, it seems like that's what H wants you to do.
All UGs are different, for instance my registrar wasn't the office that sent dean's certificates. It was my college's dean office (separate from the University-wide registrar office) that sends dean's certs.

I actually just recommend calling your UG college's dean's office and ask how to go about getting a Dean's Certification for Law School--it's highly, highly likely that whomever answers can put you in touch with someone that knows the answer.

For me, I just had to email them the Dean's Certificate (after I filled out the student portion), then they finished the rest and mailed it to HLS.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:09 pm
by sandwhich
Ok I'll try that

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:15 pm
by zombie mcavoy
Anonymous User wrote:Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone
how high would your grades have to be in this school range for it not to be a hail mary, out of curiosity

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:44 pm
by chuckbass
zombie mcavoy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone
how high would your grades have to be in this school range for it not to be a hail mary, out of curiosity
That doesn't really sound like a hail mary based on anecdata from WUSTL.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:57 pm
by asg14c
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Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:31 pm
by zombie mcavoy
scottidsntknow wrote:
zombie mcavoy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone
how high would your grades have to be in this school range for it not to be a hail mary, out of curiosity
That doesn't really sound like a hail mary based on anecdata from WUSTL.
Well then.

[checking in]

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:33 pm
by juzam_djinn
zombie mcavoy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone
how high would your grades have to be in this school range for it not to be a hail mary, out of curiosity
I'd say top 5% from a T20 would give a reasonable shot; maybe top 10% would be "not a hail mary" but it's certainly no guarantee

Transfer admissions are mostly formulaic but still quite random; there are anecdotes of people who were outside of the top 10% at T1 schools getting HYS; simultaneously I have anecdotes of people who were IN the top 10% at MVP who struck out at each one of HYS for transfer admissions

it just depends whether you are willing to put in the effort for apps (PS, recs, paying the $) so that you don't have to wonder "what if"

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:23 am
by MagicMike80
The UCLA/Vandy admits (3 total) in the last transfer cycle were top 5%.

If you're in the top 10% at any T1 school, or top 5% at any T2, I think Harvards worth an application. Definitely worth carpeting t14 from the top down and see where you end up. This was the advice I received from a person top 10% at a t50-60 school who ended up at Penn.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:36 am
by Ken Kesey
zombie mcavoy wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Throwing in an app. Also a Hail Mary

Top 15% UT/UCLA/Vandy

Good luck everyone
how high would your grades have to be in this school range for it not to be a hail mary, out of curiosity
75% of matriculation had above 3.83, so it really depends on how you define Hail Mary. (I'm assuming your GPA is around there since I saw what school you go to in another thread). However, an absolute GPA metric really isn't going to be dispositive. It's more of a necessary condition than sufficient.

http://hls.harvard.edu/content/uploads/ ... t20142.pdf

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:51 am
by VPlaw
MagicMike80 wrote:The UCLA/Vandy admits (3 total) in the last transfer cycle were top 5%.

If you're in the top 10% at any T1 school, or top 5% at any T2, I think Harvards worth an application. Definitely worth carpeting t14 from the top down and see where you end up. This was the advice I received from a person top 10% at a t50-60 school who ended up at Penn.
Don't you have to have a letter of recommendation from a law school professor as well. I heard some law school professors will not give LORs to anyone who is trying to transfer out to another law school.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:20 pm
by MagicMike80
I've heard different stories. Almost all the ones about professors being difficult have been on TLS. In my personal experience it was extremely easy to get the recommendations because I think WUStL professors view it as a given that many of the top students will try to improve their position in any way possible.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:34 pm
by zippernicus
VPlaw wrote:
MagicMike80 wrote:The UCLA/Vandy admits (3 total) in the last transfer cycle were top 5%.

If you're in the top 10% at any T1 school, or top 5% at any T2, I think Harvards worth an application. Definitely worth carpeting t14 from the top down and see where you end up. This was the advice I received from a person top 10% at a t50-60 school who ended up at Penn.
Don't you have to have a letter of recommendation from a law school professor as well. I heard some law school professors will not give LORs to anyone who is trying to transfer out to another law school.

checking in as well! the professors i've talked to about letters of recommendation have been very willing to write them.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:58 pm
by jphiggo
I have seen similar results. I have spoke to 3 professors. All were willing to share advice (and encouragement) and were willing to write letters. Don't be afraid to reach out and ask, but give them plenty of heads up notice because they are busy. I prepared a packet containing my original PS and a resume that all of them appreciated.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:10 pm
by VPlaw
zippernicus wrote:
VPlaw wrote:
MagicMike80 wrote:The UCLA/Vandy admits (3 total) in the last transfer cycle were top 5%.

If you're in the top 10% at any T1 school, or top 5% at any T2, I think Harvards worth an application. Definitely worth carpeting t14 from the top down and see where you end up. This was the advice I received from a person top 10% at a t50-60 school who ended up at Penn.
Don't you have to have a letter of recommendation from a law school professor as well. I heard some law school professors will not give LORs to anyone who is trying to transfer out to another law school.

checking in as well! the professors i've talked to about letters of recommendation have been very willing to write them.
Ok thanks for that. That is what I thought would be a problem. I do appreciate the clarification.

Re: Harvard Transfer Thread 2015

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:04 pm
by zombie mcavoy
I have only ever heard of professors categorically refusing to give recommendations at true TTTs. Y'all should be fine.