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UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:36 pm
by Anonymous User
Did a bit better than ~ top 20%; won't graduate with much of any debt at UT. No ties to Texas nor much desire to be here after school, however.

I want to be in lit in the midwest long term. However, all of the markets I'm interested in are generally pretty tough to break into (e.g. Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee). I'm curious if a move to the midwest now would be worth the debt over the long run (factoring in having a Chicago network instead of a Texas network, too).

Obviously Northwestern wouldn't make sense debt-wise: would U Chicago be a reasonable move, or would you advise me to hang tight and try to hustle from UT? Obviously early and I'd probably need to do a bit better next semester, but just kicking it around. Thanks.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:09 pm
by TheNextAmendment
Rank at UT after next semester:

Top 2%: stay
Top 5%: stay unless you get into YHS
Anything else: transfer to any of the T6 if you can

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:33 pm
by DoveBodyWash
Litigation in Chicago is tough to land even from UChicago, what kind of litigation? Do u have a preference for certain firms or something?

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:46 pm
by FlamingDragon
I would absolutely transfer to U Chicago regardless of your rank at UT, especially if you want to break into Milw. or Chicago. Either one is relatively straightforward from UofC, and Milwaukee, if you have a decent narative for why you want to be there, will be even easier, assuming you are willing to take the lower market pay.

There are very few people from Texas schools who will make their way to top Chicago firms in litigation, but a middling U of C student can do that without much trouble.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:58 am
by Anonymous User
cusenation wrote:Litigation in Chicago is tough to land even from UChicago, what kind of litigation? Do u have a preference for certain firms or something?
At this point the city/general region is what's most important for my situation. I'd rather have like Minneapolis or Madison over Chicago, maybe Milwaukee too; not a big deal either way though, I'd be happy in any of them. I'm not sure what kind of lit in particular at this point, I'm just pretty sure it's what I'd prefer over transactional. I think I'd enjoy labor and employment work, I suppose.

So the early word is that, for someone who wants to be in the Midwest long-term, it's probably worth the extra debt? Looking at the math, I would graduate about 60 in debt at UT, and roughly 130-135 if I transferred to UChi.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:29 am
by BigZuck
Your chances at Chicago big law aren't great with that class rank. 130K is a lot of money, but I'd probably lean toward pulling the trigger.

What do you think you would do if you stayed at UT and ended up striking out?

I'd also see if you can talk to some Chicago transfers to get a sense of how their OCI went.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:39 am
by lhanvt13
Lit Chicago is one of the worst sells right now. Sell corporate for SAs that let you rotate through practices and then just choose lit when you get offer (if the firm operates that way) .

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:30 pm
by DoveBodyWash
BigZuck wrote: I'd also see if you can talk to some Chicago transfers to get a sense of how their OCI went.
OP, I'm a Chicago transfer. Feel free to pm me.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:56 pm
by Anonymous User
BigZuck wrote:Your chances at Chicago big law aren't great with that class rank. 130K is a lot of money, but I'd probably lean toward pulling the trigger.

What do you think you would do if you stayed at UT and ended up striking out?
Thanks for your input. I suppose I would hustle for small firm/local government in the above mentioned regions and Austin.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:40 pm
by Anonymous User
Bumping to see if anyone else has more general advice.

I've since spoken with a handful of attorneys in a few cities mentioned above, including a UT grad, and they all said to do it and that it'd be worth the debt over the long run. Still, I'm pretty conflicted, and I would have to apply ED b/c of personal circumstances, so I've got to figure this out pretty soon.

Appreciate any more perspectives -- thanks.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:00 pm
by dkb17xzx
was in the exact same position last year - decided not to transfer. PM me

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:56 am
by reasonable person
I wouldn't transfer.

Re: UT to U Chicago

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:54 pm
by Anonymous User
reasonable person wrote:I wouldn't transfer.
Any particular reasons why not?