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The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:31 pm
by ms9
http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/first- ... ion-cycle/

Many elite schools will enroll smaller classes versus dropping too many points in LSAT. Smaller 1L classes =easier transfer cycle. Enjoy the good times!

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:38 pm
by BVest
Wouldn't data for the previous year have more impact on the upcoming round of transfer applications (specifically size of the classes that matriculated in Fall 2014 rather than the size of the applicant pool for Fall 2015 matriculation)? Or are you proposing that, in the face of continued decreases in applicants, the schools will take a larger transfer class this coming cycle to make up for what will likely be a smaller 1L class?

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:00 pm
by Nebby
He's proposing the latter, BVest.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:47 pm
by ms9
It's the later. But having sat in on budget committees for two law school I'd almost say it's not really a proposition, I think it is going to happen. You guys are going to see much bigger transfer classes.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:38 am
by bugsy33
What does that mean grade wise? Are top schools going to lower the bar for transfer students to make some quick cash? I heard UT was taking top 50% from T1's last year.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:39 am
by BVest
bugsy33 wrote:What does that mean grade wise? Are top schools going to lower the bar for transfer students to make some quick cash? I heard UT was taking top 50% from T1's last year.
Beware the anecdata. Taking a top 50% from a T1 ≠ taking top 50% from T1s. If they did (and I don't know if they did), it was likely with other factors involved.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:36 pm
by mandimeoutof10
BVest wrote:
bugsy33 wrote:What does that mean grade wise? Are top schools going to lower the bar for transfer students to make some quick cash? I heard UT was taking top 50% from T1's last year.
Beware the anecdata. Taking a top 50% from a T1 ≠ taking top 50% from T1s. If they did (and I don't know if they did), it was likely with other factors involved.
This. As a UT transfer I can tell you that if there is a top 50% T1 transfer, they are an outlier.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:54 am
by lhanvt13
mandimeoutof10 wrote:
BVest wrote:
bugsy33 wrote:What does that mean grade wise? Are top schools going to lower the bar for transfer students to make some quick cash? I heard UT was taking top 50% from T1's last year.
Beware the anecdata. Taking a top 50% from a T1 ≠ taking top 50% from T1s. If they did (and I don't know if they did), it was likely with other factors involved.
This. As a UT transfer I can tell you that if there is a top 50% T1 transfer, they are an outlier.
top 50% T20 -> MVP happened last year. HLS dipped a bit more than they did in previous years. GULC dipped too.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:52 pm
by flat-fifth
This post is giving me so much life right now.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:52 pm
by Nebby
flat-fifth wrote:This post is giving me so much life right now.
Median still won't get you in.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:39 pm
by ms9
Here are the 20 law schools that accept the most transfers

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/the-20 ... transfers/

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:41 pm
by ManoftheHour
Damn. Still don't have grades, but I get a chance.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:47 pm
by ms9
Here is a blog of 10 elements to transfer admissions that Jayme McKellop, former director of admissions at Chicago Law School wrote: http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/10-ele ... dmissions/

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:01 pm
by Manteca
flat-fifth wrote:This post is giving me so much life right now.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:17 pm
by AT9
Spivey: any general "insider" sense of what kind of ranking is required to be competitive at Harvard or Stanford from a mid/lower tier 1?

Also, where are U Idaho's 57 transfers coming from??

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:41 pm
by ms9
Well, I asked my business partner who was at Harvard Law for 12 years, she says starting at 20% and getting better is where you need to be. Obviously the greater the class rank/percentile the better.

Re: The early data bodes very well for transfer applicants

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:26 pm
by AT9
MikeSpivey wrote:Well, I asked my business partner who was at Harvard Law for 12 years, she says starting at 20% and getting better is where you need to be. Obviously the greater the class rank/percentile the better.
That's less stringent than I expected (though, I should have clarified that my mid/lower T1 = 30's/40's, not teens or 20's). Thanks for the info as always.