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Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:35 am
by Anonymous User
At Iowa Law (top 15%, Law Review, and free housing) I have an engineering degree and would like to do IP (leaning towards patent litigation) at a large firm. Have a firm job this summer working in IP. I think would like to work in the Midwest at a large firm, but I am not sure what city, or if I'm actually set on working in the Midwest.

Waiting on Columbia and NYU. I must tell NU today.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:35 am
by bjsesq
Anonymous User wrote:At Iowa Law (top 15%, Law Review, and free housing) I have an engineering degree and would like to do IP at a large firm.

Waiting on Columbia and NYU. I must tell NU today.
What are your goals?

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:39 am
by Anonymous User
bjsesq wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:At Iowa Law (top 15%, Law Review, and free housing) I have an engineering degree and would like to do IP at a large firm.

Waiting on Columbia and NYU. I must tell NU today.
What are your goals?


OP here
I would like to work at a large law firm, but I don't really know where. Probably not in Chicago.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:22 am
by Nebby
Anonymous User wrote:
bjsesq wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:At Iowa Law (top 15%, Law Review, and free housing) I have an engineering degree and would like to do IP at a large firm.

Waiting on Columbia and NYU. I must tell NU today.
What are your goals?


OP here
I would like to work at a large law firm, but I don't really know where. Probably not in Chicago.
I think you should accept NU with your goals. If you haven't heard back from CLS or NYU then I believe it's safe to assume those are out of the running.

NU sent 56% to BigLaw for class of 2013(NYU sent 58%). Iowa sent 10%. That's 5x as many, which means your chances of gainful employment increase significantly at NU.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:23 am
by 09042014
What kind of degree and how many screener interviews did you get at the Loyola Patent Fair.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:31 am
by daleearnhardt123
It's not clear from your post what your COA is at Iowa. Please elaborate. Most likely this should be a "stay at Iowa" decision, but it depends on $. With your stats and patent interest/eligibility, you should not be dissuaded by Iowas 10 % biglaw placement. You will easily outperform your similarly ranked peers there.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:38 am
by DportIA
PM me.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:46 am
by Anonymous User
Desert Fox wrote:What kind of degree and how many screener interviews did you get at the Loyola Patent Fair.
OP-

Civil Engineering (focused more in Mechanical and Aero Engineering but wanted to be done in 4 years since I knew I was going to law school)

I have 7 interviews at the Loyola Patent Fair, and 4 out in California. 1 call back interview with a large firm in Kansas City (skipped off-site interview because of a call back interview as a 1L).

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:48 am
by Anonymous User
daleearnhardt123 wrote:It's not clear from your post what your COA is at Iowa. Please elaborate. Most likely this should be a "stay at Iowa" decision, but it depends on $. With your stats and patent interest/eligibility, you should not be dissuaded by Iowas 10 % biglaw placement. You will easily outperform your similarly ranked peers there.

COA at Iowa will be just tuition minus $5k, so about $19,000 plus books and parking. No housing or food costs.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:49 am
by 09042014
Anonymous User wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:It's not clear from your post what your COA is at Iowa. Please elaborate. Most likely this should be a "stay at Iowa" decision, but it depends on $. With your stats and patent interest/eligibility, you should not be dissuaded by Iowas 10 % biglaw placement. You will easily outperform your similarly ranked peers there.

COA at Iowa will be just tuition minus $5k, so about $19,000 plus books and parking. No housing or food costs.
I'd stay.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:49 am
by Nebby
Anonymous User wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:What kind of degree and how many screener interviews did you get at the Loyola Patent Fair.
OP-

Civil Engineering (focused more in Mechanical and Aero Engineering but wanted to be done in 4 years since I knew I was going to law school)

I have 7 interviews at the Loyola Patent Fair, and 4 out in California. 1 Call back interview with a large firm in Kansas City.
Make sure you go to Oklahoma Joe's in KC. We know how to make some damn fine BBQ.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:52 am
by Anonymous User
OP-

FYI, I still haven't decided. Asked and received an extension until Monday.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:53 am
by daleearnhardt123
Anonymous User wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:It's not clear from your post what your COA is at Iowa. Please elaborate. Most likely this should be a "stay at Iowa" decision, but it depends on $. With your stats and patent interest/eligibility, you should not be dissuaded by Iowas 10 % biglaw placement. You will easily outperform your similarly ranked peers there.

COA at Iowa will be just tuition minus $5k, so about $19,000 plus books and parking. No housing or food costs.
So 38 more at Iowa v. ~150 at NW for 2 years? It sounds like you already have great leads on jobs and are in good shape. Assuming disaster doesn't strike, you'll be very happy in a few years that you saved 112k in principal, much less the interest.

Re: Northwestern or Iowa ($5,000/In-state tuition)

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:56 am
by bjsesq
Desert Fox wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
daleearnhardt123 wrote:It's not clear from your post what your COA is at Iowa. Please elaborate. Most likely this should be a "stay at Iowa" decision, but it depends on $. With your stats and patent interest/eligibility, you should not be dissuaded by Iowas 10 % biglaw placement. You will easily outperform your similarly ranked peers there.

COA at Iowa will be just tuition minus $5k, so about $19,000 plus books and parking. No housing or food costs.
I'd stay.
Kinda with DF. If you were obsessed with biglawl no matter what, and definitely in Chicago, I'd say maybe. But the cost/risk here doesn't add up for me.