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concurrent fork wrote:Given your happiness and stats at your current school, I think it's a wash. I would probably stay.

Also, there's no evidence that transferring improves A3 clerkship prospects.

Lawquacious wrote:Transfer.

mdfreeman wrote:

concurrent fork wrote:Given your happiness and stats at your current school, I think it's a wash. I would probably stay.

Also, there's no evidence that transferring improves A3 clerkship prospects.

Eh, I call mild bullshit. I don't think it vastly improves your clerkship prospects. However, I'm going from a school that put 3 people into A3 clerkships to a school that puts about 15% of their class into A3 clerkships.

Way I see it, transferring can't turn no clerkship into clerkship status but it can certainly make it easier.



Also to OP, if you want to stay in DC, stay at GW. If you want to go elsewhere, go to Michigan.

concurrent fork wrote:

mdfreeman wrote:

concurrent fork wrote:Given your happiness and stats at your current school, I think it's a wash. I would probably stay.

Also, there's no evidence that transferring improves A3 clerkship prospects.

Eh, I call mild bullshit. I don't think it vastly improves your clerkship prospects. However, I'm going from a school that put 3 people into A3 clerkships to a school that puts about 15% of their class into A3 clerkships.

Way I see it, transferring can't turn no clerkship into clerkship status but it can certainly make it easier.



Also to OP, if you want to stay in DC, stay at GW. If you want to go elsewhere, go to Michigan.

So you call bullshit on lack of evidence, citing personal opinion? Cool.

quiver wrote:My evidence is anecdotal, but after talking with previous transfers (now clerks), judges, and former clerks, transferring can certainly improve one's odds at a fed clerkship (depending on the situation).

concurrent fork wrote:

quiver wrote:My evidence is anecdotal, but after talking with previous transfers (now clerks), judges, and former clerks, transferring can certainly improve one's odds at a fed clerkship (depending on the situation).

I definitely agree that it can. My anecdotal evidence goes both ways. But unlike OCI results (where enough data has been shared to show, for ex, that HYSCCN transfers virtually all get biglaw if desired), we have no idea how many transfers are represented in the A3 placement at these schools. Given this uncertainty I don't think it should be something that pushes you to transfer -- especially if, like OP, you're on the fence between a T20 w/LR and a lower T14 w/nothing.

quiver wrote:

concurrent fork wrote:

quiver wrote:My evidence is anecdotal, but after talking with previous transfers (now clerks), judges, and former clerks, transferring can certainly improve one's odds at a fed clerkship (depending on the situation).

I definitely agree that it can. My anecdotal evidence goes both ways. But unlike OCI results (where enough data has been shared to show, for ex, that HYSCCN transfers virtually all get biglaw if desired), we have no idea how many transfers are represented in the A3 placement at these schools. Given this uncertainty I don't think it should be something that pushes you to transfer -- especially if, like OP, you're on the fence between a T20 w/LR and a lower T14 w/nothing.

Ah yes, ok. I think it's very fact specific; transferring from T2 to CCN for fed clerkships is different than going from GW (w/ LR) to lower T14. Tough call here. While OP does have LR, s/he is only in the top 20% which is not the best position for AIII clerkships (although maybe sufficient for district courts).

If it were me, I would probably transfer. OP is paying sticking whether s/he stays or goes and district court judges/SSC judges care less about LR than fed COA judges (which OP is not aiming for). Being at Mich/NW may also help at OCI by providing access to more NY firms, which have the largest summer classes by far (and OP said s/he would be fine working in NY). If Op had a scholarship at GW it would be an even tougher decision, but I say transfer.

sunynp wrote:

Lawquacious wrote:Transfer.

transferquestion123 wrote:so you're getting a lot of conventional TLS "higher ranked is always better" noise here, but as a current Michigan student considering transferring out for greener pastures myself, I think you should listen to the people arguing LR makes more difference for clerkships than does moving from T20 to a lower (non-T6) T14. The judges considering you for a clerkship are gonna know you're a top-20% GW kid regardless of where you transfer - you can't erase that - and you are giving up LR, which they do care about.

sunynp wrote: I don't think higher ranked is always better. I think that GW is not worth sticker even if you are on law review.

Good luck OP, you are in a good position.

transferquestion123 wrote:so you're getting a lot of conventional TLS "higher ranked is always better" noise here, but as a current Michigan student considering transferring out for greener pastures myself, I think you should listen to the people arguing LR makes more difference for clerkships than does moving from a T20 to a lower (non-T6) T14. The judges considering you for a clerkship are gonna know you're a top-20% GW kid regardless of where you transfer - you can't erase that - and you are giving up LR, which they do care about. That said, quiver made some solid points, and if it really is true district judges don't care as much about LR (which I can't confirm and hadn't heard before), I could see giving up LR to make the jump. Less bluebooking for you anyway right?