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Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:27 pm
by possible-transfer
School ranked between 35-42. I'm just a hair outside of the top 5%. If I maintain 2nd semester, what are my chances for CCNMVPB? Is HYS worth an application?

Also, feel free to weigh in on whether I should/shouldn't transfer. My first priority is ultimately ending up in biglaw, but if I could clerk first that would be ideal. I should probably mention that I have no scholarship going forward.

Re: Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:49 pm
by concurrent fork
Unless you move into top 5%, I think you're def out at HYS.

Re: Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:39 pm
by mrloblaw
Enjoy NYU/Penn. Or pray for CC.

Re: Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:50 pm
by CanadianWolf
Are you an URM ? Any other special softs ? If neither, than HYS are not likely to accept you as a transfer--but I hope you prove me wrong. :D

Re: Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:29 pm
by Transferthrowaway
CanadianWolf wrote:Are you an URM ? Any other special softs ? If neither, than HYS are not likely to accept you as a transfer--but I hope you prove me wrong. :D
Conventional wisdom is that URM doesn't matter for transfers, nor do most softs.

OP, I was top 1-2% at a T35 and was out at HYS, in at Chi. (Didn't apply to CN)

Re: Come and speculate rampantly

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:10 pm
by vanwinkle
Transferthrowaway wrote:Conventional wisdom is that URM doesn't matter for transfers, nor do most softs.
This may be the conventional wisdom, but I don't think it's correct. I think that these things matter in a different, smaller way.

Transferring isn't like the normal application process where they have a whole bunch of seats to fill and a wide range of choices. Most schools have very few transfer spots, and a number of applicants with top grades. Law school grades are a better predictor of success than anything else like GPA or LSAT, so they're pretty much mandatory, and you're not transferring up without top grades.

However (at least at the top, HYS level) I think they get so many applicants with top grades that other things are a tiebreaker. HLS in particular looks for applicants with substantial pre-LS WE. Logically it just also makes sense that if a school gets more applicants with top grades than it can take, it'll pick the ones with interesting softs.

So they matter, but as a tiebreaker rather than something that can bring you up if you're too low.