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Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:19 pm
by lawschool249
I recently got accepted to both Brooklyn Law and Rutgers-Newark Law as a Transfer Student. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on which one I should attend. I would choose Brooklyn but the main dilemma in my decision is money, as usual. I am a New Jersey resident so therefore I would be able to pay in-state tuition at Rutgers-Newark. If I were to attend Rutgers over Brooklyn, at the end of the day I would save myself upwards of $40,000 of debt. So I guess my main question is....Is Brooklyn Law $40,000 better than Rutgers-Newark or worth that kind of money????
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:41 pm
by keg411
lawschool249 wrote:I recently got accepted to both Brooklyn Law and Rutgers-Newark Law as a Transfer Student. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on which one I should attend. I would choose Brooklyn but the main dilemma in my decision is money, as usual. I am a New Jersey resident so therefore I would be able to pay in-state tuition at Rutgers-Newark. If I were to attend Rutgers over Brooklyn, at the end of the day I would save myself upwards of $40,000 of debt. So I guess my main question is....Is Brooklyn Law $40,000 better than Rutgers-Newark or worth that kind of money????
No.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:02 pm
by boogieboo
Go to Rutgers
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:12 pm
by teaadntoast
Go to Rutgers. Especially if you plan to practice in New Jersey.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:31 am
by evanmd
The difference between Rutgers and Brooklyn is not worth talking about. Rutgers is the easy choice. That is unless you really want to live in NYC during school.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:46 pm
by Sandman
I recently got accepted to both Brooklyn Law and Rutgers-Newark Law as a Transfer Student. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on which one I should attend. I would choose Brooklyn but the main dilemma in my decision is money, as usual. I am a New Jersey resident so therefore I would be able to pay in-state tuition at Rutgers-Newark. If I were to attend Rutgers over Brooklyn, at the end of the day I would save myself upwards of $40,000 of debt. So I guess my main question is....Is Brooklyn Law $40,000 better than Rutgers-Newark or worth that kind of money????
If you don't mind me asking, did you get your acceptance in the form of an email or by mail?
What school were you transferring from and what was your overall credentials i.e. Law School GPA, LSAT, UGPA and College
and work experience, if any?
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:25 pm
by Zazelmaf
How long were you complete at Rutgers before getting a decision? I have been complete about 10 or so days, and have a $500 deposit deadline for another school tomorrow (but would rather take Rutgers).
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:00 pm
by lawschool249
Zazelmaf wrote:How long were you complete at Rutgers before getting a decision? I have been complete about 10 or so days, and have a $500 deposit deadline for another school tomorrow (but would rather take Rutgers).
A little more than 2 weeks
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:27 pm
by Zazelmaf
I was wait listed
(today).
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:29 pm
by rising2l
if money is not an issue - brooklyn
if money is an issue - rutgers
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:36 pm
by ndirish2010
You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:18 pm
by BostonNJ
ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
Rutgers is one of the top schools in its region. Its the state school of NJ, tons of connections, governors, senators, and major law firm partners come out of it. Major NJ players are associated with its two law schools. While you are racking up 6 digit debt, this guy is coming out with less then half. So before you analyze try to understand the context of the situation. LOL good luck as an attorney.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:20 pm
by BostonNJ
ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
P.S. spelling error on the word prospects.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:40 pm
by beach_terror
ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
This is hyperbolic. Top 1/3 is probably safe for some type of private practice and then R-N does a shit ton with clerkships and PI/govt.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:58 pm
by MrAnon
BostonNJ wrote:ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
Rutgers is one of the top schools in its region. Its the state school of NJ, tons of connections, governors, senators, and major law firm partners come out of it. Major NJ players are associated with its two law schools. While you are racking up 6 digit debt, this guy is coming out with less then half. So before you analyze try to understand the context of the situation. LOL good luck as an attorney.
4 governors out of two schools = TONS OF GOVERNORS. the employment opportunities provided to students who graduated 30 years ago is not so relevant to today's grads. But good luck.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:07 pm
by Heartford
rising2l wrote:if money is not an issue - brooklyn
if money is an issue - rutgers
imo this is still wrong- I think you're better off picking RU either way. Especially since s/he's a TTTransfer, OP's chances of getting a job in NJ out of Rutgers is probably higher than getting one in NYC (or anywhere, really) from Brooklyn.
OP: Definitely go to Rutgers.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:28 pm
by nene
ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
I don't really understand this logic. Are you saying op's better off not transferring and staying a 3rd tier? Or are you saying that op should be transferring to a higher ranked school? If OP could go to a t14 I'm sure op would, but if op can't, than going to Rutgers is a good decision IMO. Transferring to a 3rd tier to Rutgers, which is a solid school with a good regional reputation and very low tuition, is much better than staying at a 3rd tier. I'm currently enrolled at Rutgers, (hopefully transferring to NYU) and I've had a great experience. I woud recommend it over BK law just b/c it's a much better bang for the buck.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:55 am
by ndirish2010
nene wrote:ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
I don't really understand this logic. Are you saying op's better off not transferring and staying a 3rd tier? Or are you saying that op should be transferring to a higher ranked school? If OP could go to a t14 I'm sure op would, but if op can't, than going to Rutgers is a good decision IMO. Transferring to a 3rd tier to Rutgers, which is a solid school with a good regional reputation and very low tuition, is much better than staying at a 3rd tier. I'm currently enrolled at Rutgers, (hopefully transferring to NYU) and I've had a great experience. I woud recommend it over BK law just b/c it's a much better bang for the buck.
Yeah, I'm saying I would stay. If the conventional TLS wisdom has any truth at all, OP would be viewed as a median student at Rutgers. That is not someplace anyone wants to be.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:57 am
by keg411
ndirish2010 wrote:nene wrote:ndirish2010 wrote:You can't seriously be thinking about transferring into these schools. Only about 10-15% of the students have job propsects as it is, and you're going to be a transfer from presumably a TTT. Think about that.
I don't really understand this logic. Are you saying op's better off not transferring and staying a 3rd tier? Or are you saying that op should be transferring to a higher ranked school? If OP could go to a t14 I'm sure op would, but if op can't, than going to Rutgers is a good decision IMO. Transferring to a 3rd tier to Rutgers, which is a solid school with a good regional reputation and very low tuition, is much better than staying at a 3rd tier. I'm currently enrolled at Rutgers, (hopefully transferring to NYU) and I've had a great experience. I woud recommend it over BK law just b/c it's a much better bang for the buck.
Yeah, I'm saying I would stay. If the conventional TLS wisdom has any truth at all, OP would be viewed as a median student at Rutgers. That is not someplace anyone wants to be.
You aren't viewed as a median student at your new school; you are just viewed as a student with your grades from your old school.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:04 pm
by nene
You mean op would be viewed as a median student for OCI purposes? I heard that's not the case. However if it is the case, chances are almost nil of getting a law firm position, only the top 10% at Rutgers get those.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:15 pm
by beach_terror
nene wrote:You mean op would be viewed as a median student for OCI purposes? I heard that's not the case. However if it is the case, chances are almost nil of getting a law firm position, only the top 10% at Rutgers get those.
No. If you don't know what you're talking about, then resist the urge to post.
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:24 am
by nene
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Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:30 am
by beach_terror
nene wrote:beach_terror wrote:nene wrote:You mean op would be viewed as a median student for OCI purposes? I heard that's not the case. However if it is the case, chances are almost nil of getting a law firm position, only the top 10% at Rutgers get those.
No. If you don't know what you're talking about, then resist the urge to post.
I do know what I'm talking about. Only the top 10% of students of students at Rutgers, if that, get jobs at medium and big firms. However I'm not sure how the firms view the transfer students. I'm not sure why that means I don't know what I'm talking about, or why you felt the need to be rude.
~11% get NLJ250 (just like most similarly situated T2 schools), so you're flat out wrong on that point. Cite some sort of data to back your point that only 10% get law firm jobs from a school that dominates the New Jersey market. I'll say it again, the top 30% at R-N are entirely capable of getting some sort of private firm (small, medium, or big).
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:37 am
by nene
beach_terror wrote:nene wrote:beach_terror wrote:nene wrote:You mean op would be viewed as a median student for OCI purposes? I heard that's not the case. However if it is the case, chances are almost nil of getting a law firm position, only the top 10% at Rutgers get those.
No. If you don't know what you're talking about, then resist the urge to post.
I do know what I'm talking about. Only the top 10% of students of students at Rutgers, if that, get jobs at medium and big firms. However I'm not sure how the firms view the transfer students. I'm not sure why that means I don't know what I'm talking about, or why you felt the need to be rude.
~11% get NLJ250, so you're flat out wrong on that point. Cite some sort of data to back your point that only 10% get law firm jobs from a school that dominates the New Jersey market. I'll say it again, the top 30% at R-N are entirely capable of getting some sort of private firm (small, medium, or big).
Ok, so I said 10% at medium and large firms, and being off by 1% means I don't know what I'm talking about? Also, I was really speaking in the context of OCI. Last year 11 people got jobs through OCI at Rutgers-Newark. That's more like 5% of the class. Look, I go to Rutgers and I love it. My advice to OP was to attend Rutgers and not Brooklyn. However the truth is the truth, getting those big law jobs is no cake walk and the market is not what it used to be. Lots of Jersey firms who would take kids from RU and Seton Hall can now hold out for Columbia and NYU kids. Are your #s post 2008?
Re: Brooklyn or Rutgers-Newark Law
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:52 am
by beach_terror
nene wrote:You mean op would be viewed as a median student for OCI purposes? I heard that's not the case. However if it is the case, chances are almost nil of getting a law firm position, only the top 10% at Rutgers get those.