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How do you negotiate your scholarship with your old school. People on TLS make it sound like you just walk into the dean's office and start haggling. lol

I was at the registrars office only yesterday to turn in my official withdrawal papers to transfer and they called me in to meet with the registrar and some other dean of student affairs I believe. When it came to my reason for transferring, the registrar basically said she would negotiate for me with financial aid if that's what it took to get me to stay.

So to answer your question, yes it might be as simple as just walking into the deans office and saying "show me the money".

Meet with the dean (or assistant dean, or someone else "higher up") and bring proof of your acceptance for transfer at other schools. They won't jump unless you have proof. Just saying that you are thinking about transferring is not enough. That said, expect the administration to be hard asses.

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Hamilton wrote:I asked for a reassessment of my scholarship, they said "sorry, there's no money." I thanked them for their time, and sent in my transfer applications. I'll approach them one more time after I have my decisions. If there really is no more money, I can't justify paying nearly full tuition here.

They'll only give you the time of day when you have your acceptances. They have money, but they'll probably have to shuffle it around from the scholarships for incoming 1Ls.

Do the T6 schools ever give scholarship money to transfers?

My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Your school isn't screwing you, it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

disco_barred wrote:

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Your school isn't screwing you, it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

I'd say it depends on the context. If his school doesn't ever do such things, then yeah, he is not being screwed. But if his school is like Loyola LA where they hand out schollies like candy to top performers, then he may well be "getting screwed" compared to his fellow high rankers.

^ Disco: It's important to remember that Palsgraf isn't the sole beneficiary of his (her?) academic success. Top-performing students tend to get jobs, clerkships, and other accolades that raise a school's employment % and salary medians, or add to its prestige. While a school hardly "owes" it to a high performer to provide a post-1L scholarship, it may very well make economic/practical sense to do so, especially if that student is currently receiving NO aid at all (like Palsgraf). I agree students shouldn't sound entitled, but to some degree, Palgraf's frustration is warranted...here on out, his/her achievements will benefit the school, whereas the school has seen fit to provide grants and stipends to lower-achieving students. It is well within the school's prerogative to do so, but it will have to live with the stats/jobs/salaries/clerkships that those lower-performing students achieve for it (or don't), if Palsgraf transfers.

disco_barred wrote:

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Your school isn't screwing you, it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

Entitled brats, no. Consumers of a very expensive product, yes. When I'm expected to invest thousands of dollars in a service, you'd better believe I'll act as entitled as a damn-well please to milk as many "merit" or whatnot scholarship dollars as possible.

disco_barred wrote:

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Sure, your school isn't is screwing you it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers. Therefore, we should get what we deserve as a result of our efforts.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

Fixed. But here's my response to the unstriken version:

HUH? WTF?!$^&*$%#^%#

Hard work deserves to be rewarded, especially when many of the top 1L performers were top incoming performers who either did not get their deserved aid coming in or received nothing at all. IMO, scholarships should mostly be awarded after 1L rather than to incoming students; that way, the people who have proven that they are top performers get rewarded for it. Remember, I said "mostly". And there is nothing wrong with negotiating for your talents.

As the Joker said in TDK, "If you're good at something, never do it for free!"

LOL, I love it. Hey, I feel as if I deserve it. I know of two students who got scholarships coming in who are now WELL BELOW me in rankings and academic performance. They get money because they are in the Top 20% but as a Top 10% guy on Law Review I get squat? Raising the BS flag here. I'll stay regardless (unless I transfer) but it seems like they are TRYING to build resentment.

thexfactor wrote:How do you negotiate your scholarship with your old school.

Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1skaCKoWJA

A'nold wrote:

disco_barred wrote:

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Your school isn't screwing you, it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

I'd say it depends on the context. If his school doesn't ever do such things, then yeah, he is not being screwed. But if his school is like Loyola LA where they hand out schollies like candy to top performers, then he may well be "getting screwed" compared to his fellow high rankers.

At my school the process was extremely transparent. Everybody in the top 30% got scholarships according to their rank.

1%: Full tuition
2-5%: 22,500
6-10%: 18,000
11-15%: 12,500
16-20%: 9,000
21-30%: 4,500

Granted, my school is a T3.

Danteshek wrote:

A'nold wrote:

disco_barred wrote:

Mr_Palsgraf wrote:My school is screwing me. I did very well 1L and received absolutely no scholarship at all. I've emailed them to confirm I won't be receiving anything. If I do get accepted as a transfer this will make it that much easier to leave.

People on this website are such entitled brats. Your school isn't screwing you, it is VERY rare for schools to award scholarships to their top performers.

To act entitled to it is basically saying you think you should not only reap the benefits of your academic success, but that everyone else at your school should pick up the bill for your education.

There's nothing wrong with asking, but it honestly shocks me to see people saying things like this.

I'd say it depends on the context. If his school doesn't ever do such things, then yeah, he is not being screwed. But if his school is like Loyola LA where they hand out schollies like candy to top performers, then he may well be "getting screwed" compared to his fellow high rankers.

At my school the process was extremely transparent. Everybody in the top 30% got scholarships according to their rank.

1%: Full tuition
2-5%: 22,500
6-10%: 18,000
11-15%: 12,500
16-20%: 9,000
21-30%: 4,500

Granted, my school is a T3.

Are these sums in addition to scholarship money students already have? I could use some extra scholly $. I think my school is way too poor to do this though.

Yes, the sums are in addition to existing scholarships students hold. It's a one year deal but you can requalify for 3L merit scholarships based on class rank after 2L.

Danteshek wrote:Yes, the sums are in addition to existing scholarships students hold. It's a one year deal but you can requalify for 3L merit scholarships based on class rank after 2L.

My drop in rank would have cost me 10k at Southwestern. Not cool man.