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Man, this thread had so much potential...

prncaspian3 wrote:P.S. A'nold, you WILL get in somewhere, and despite the heated discussion above, I am pulling for you.

Man, this thread had so much potential...

It still has the same potential as before...but honestly, I'm not sure how much potential there is to begin when it comes to an "In At Nowhere" thread. I think the title alone brings out the grumpiness in all of us.

You know what, I actually hope the potential of this thread is sharply limited. At the very least, I hope all of us here--including A'nold--will soon gravitate towards an "In At Somewhere" thread, with this thread long behind us, and then all will be well in the world.

prncaspian3 wrote:

But for you to grind A'nold for complaining or fretting and to argue semantics in the way that you have is nothing short of hypocrisy. I've read your posts in a transfer thread where you "fretted" (as much as A'nold did ITT) about your chronic illness during UG. You posted something to the effect: "If not for my chronic illness, I'd already be at a T14. Because students as talented as myself wind up at T40 schools, an application from a student at the top of the class at a T40 should be taken just as seriously as one from a T20 on down." Nobody called you out on your logic or dubbed you a complainer probably because most were sympathetic to the effects your illness had on your education. But the assumptions you made in reaching your conclusions were no greater than the ones A'nold offered in support of his "screwy" grading situation, and the justifications he provided for his frustrating transfer cycle were no less quantifiable than the justifications you gave for your disappointing application cycle. So maybe tone down the douchiness is TCR? If you want to continue being a douche, at least make sure that you're coming to the table with clean hands

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First, I do think context is important. I didn't go into elaborate detail about my illness. I made my point in the context of that thread--yes, vented my frustration--and moved on. It's one thing to cherry-pick one of my posts; and another to observe an entire pattern of behavior that pervades this thread and others. Of course I have 'fretted' about that, but I'm not exactly a 'fretter' or instigator.

And second, even considering my previous post, chronic illness isn't quite analogous to a 'screwy' grading situation, as unfortunate as the latter really is. Frankly, screwy grading situations are not only more common, but they are also more prone to ambiguity. If A'nolds professors operated on differential curves, which they pre-determined without regard to the relative perceived strength of the class (do we know this?), then his situation is screwy indeed. Either way, I sympathize with that situation. Others here have expressed sympathy as well for A'nold, for this and many other issues he has expressed. But at some point, you do accept the cards you were dealt--and unless the school takes action after your complaint, which here it has not--you have to move on.

I accept my cards, but my issue has been how to present it to Admissions. In A'nolds case, if he were to notify them about 'stacked' sections and differential curves (and I would say avoid it), then he would need to artfully and succinctly mention the school's policy of allowing each professor to curve classes to his/her own liking--NOT, "and therefore, my grades suffered compared to the other applicants you get." But in my case, it's something they need to know, no two ways about it. Either way, I haven't really been dwelling on it, and I haven't really gone the extra
mile to draw new sympathizers.

I do appreciate your reasoned response (as opposed to the previous STFU), but I take issue with your drudging up my own (isolated) concern to draw a moral/practical equivalence with A'nolds overall conduct here.

A'nold wrote:I have to wonder though why I've only heard from 1 out of 13 schools that I applied to. You'd think I'd have at least heard from 4 or something, haha.

sanpiero wrote:

A'nold wrote:I have to wonder though why I've only heard from 1 out of 13 schools that I applied to. You'd think I'd have at least heard from 4 or something, haha.

I guess there's a direct correlation between the strength of your stats relative to other applicants to a given school and the speed with which you receive an acceptance from said school. I am borderline or worse for each of the schools I applied to, so I'm not surprised to still be waiting for my first decision. What really killed me is that lawschool got in to M with t7% at a T50, and he and I went complete at about the same time. This DOES NOT bode well for me considering our stats are about equal (i guess he might have a slight edge). I'm sure the locations of our current schools played no small role.

Anyway, A'nold, I think you're borderline at a lot of the schools you applied to, so it's difficult to expect quick turn arounds. Almost all the acceptances we have seen reported in this forum have been from applicants with amazing numbers, e.g. t1% @ T3, t5% @ T40, t10% @ T25, etc.

No reason to get down about it. With the collective will of TLS pulling for you, I can't imagine you'll be unhappy with the result. That said, try to relax. I don't think this week will be too eventful, given the research I did earlier today. Next week will be better, and within 3 weeks we'll probably have a very good idea of where we'll be spending 2011 and 2012.

grobbelski wrote:Trying to fight off a sinking feeling ---> burying self if work. Any comiserators?

A'nold wrote:

grobbelski wrote:Trying to fight off a sinking feeling ---> burying self if work. Any comiserators?

See, the sucky thing about "burrying yourself in work" is that I CANNOT stop thinking about transfer apps 24/7 and I have access to the internet. My work is cool too but I'm not enjoying it as much as I should be. I hate that this matters so much to me, dangit.

A'nold wrote:I have to wonder though why I've only heard from 1 out of 13 schools that I applied to. You'd think I'd have at least heard from 4 or something, haha.

A'nold wrote:Lol. Unless this mcsda or whatever guy is another convicted alt (which wouldn't surprise me) I do wonder how I've developed such an alt troll following.

mcdsa wrote:

A'nold wrote:Lol. Unless this mcsda or whatever guy is another convicted alt (which wouldn't surprise me) I do wonder how I've developed such an alt troll following.

ever consider that you're pretty annoying to more than one person?

A'nold wrote:Lol. Unless this mcsda or whatever guy is another convicted alt (which wouldn't surprise me) I do wonder how I've developed such an alt troll following.

solidsnake wrote:This thread should be dismissed for want of ripeness.

betasteve wrote:

samiseaborn wrote:I'm officially complete at half, unofficially complete at a few and radio silent by one. I'll send good thoughts at Michigan if you send good ones at Penn. Transferapps says this was the week last year.

Also, are you just searching messages in transferapps, or is there a file or resource I am missing there?