Completely agree. I generally find 2-3 suits I could buy and at least 5 shirts that fit great at Off Fifth. At the Rack I feel like I'm in grandpa's closet, hoping something from the 70s is "in" again.Helmholtz wrote:I can never find anything when I go to the Rack. I have always found the suit selection to be superb at Off Fifth. But then again, I've only been to a couple of each of those stores, and your mileage may vary wildly.Kretzy wrote:Rack is net cheaper, generally, but Off Fifth has better deals by percent off.Helmholtz wrote:I prefer Sax off Fifth.TaipeiMort wrote:I asked this earlier, but does anyone know if the quality/prices coming out of Sacks off Fifth or the Rack is better?
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Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
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I doubt the mods are gonna wanna do it, but we could probably start crafting one and they'd paste it in there.TaipeiMort wrote:Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
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Is a lighter grey, in the silver range, safe enough if worn with a conservative tie, or do I need to go for full on charcoal?
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They should just take Pufer's megapost and paste it thereBronte wrote:I doubt the mods are gonna wanna do it, but we could probably start crafting one and they'd paste it in there.TaipeiMort wrote:Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
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+1. That's really all you need to know.Kilpatrick wrote:They should just take Pufer's megapost and paste it thereBronte wrote:I doubt the mods are gonna wanna do it, but we could probably start crafting one and they'd paste it in there.TaipeiMort wrote:Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
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-1beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.Kilpatrick wrote:They should just take Pufer's megapost and paste it thereBronte wrote:I doubt the mods are gonna wanna do it, but we could probably start crafting one and they'd paste it in there.TaipeiMort wrote:Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
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What's missing? As far as I can tell, his latest megapost pretty much covers the bases in what you should be shopping for.Helmholtz wrote:-1beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.
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Well really, in that regard you could put "all you need to know" into a few sentences: "100% wool solid charcoal or solid navy suit with appropriate aterations made, plain white button-up shirt with point or medium spread collar, red or blue tie with conservative pattern, black cap toe shoes matching black belt, no cuff links, pocket square or tie bar, plain dress socks matching suit color, price doesn't matter for OCI purposes as long as suit fits well"beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.Kilpatrick wrote:They should just take Pufer's megapost and paste it thereBronte wrote:I doubt the mods are gonna wanna do it, but we could probably start crafting one and they'd paste it in there.TaipeiMort wrote:Is there a way the mods could enter in a "general consensus" section at the beginning of this thread. I always lose my place and can't find important information again.
I think the more interesting parts of this thread are where clothes are discussed more generally outside the context of OCI. What counts as sufficiently conservative was established on like page 1 or 2 and is just repeated ad nauseum.
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What's wrong with cuff links?
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Too flashy.xcountryjunkie wrote:What's wrong with cuff links?
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I prefer common sense over some dude in Phoenix or Denver or wherever he is, doing whatever the hell he does, telling me that pale blue shirts are not a good idea for OCI and that your shirt must be white.beachbum wrote:What's missing? As far as I can tell, his latest megapost pretty much covers the bases in what you should be shopping for.Helmholtz wrote:-1beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.
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you mad bro?Helmholtz wrote:I prefer common sense over some dude in Phoenix or Denver or wherever he is, doing whatever the hell he does, telling me that pale blue shirts are not a good idea for OCI and that your shirt must be white.beachbum wrote:What's missing? As far as I can tell, his latest megapost pretty much covers the bases in what you should be shopping for.Helmholtz wrote:-1beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.
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Not at all.beach_terror wrote: you mad bro?
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Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.Helmholtz wrote:I prefer common sense over some dude in Phoenix or Denver or wherever he is, doing whatever the hell he does, telling me that pale blue shirts are not a good idea for OCI and that your shirt must be white.beachbum wrote:What's missing? As far as I can tell, his latest megapost pretty much covers the bases in what you should be shopping for.Helmholtz wrote:-1beachbum wrote:+1. That's really all you need to know.
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I completely agree. Of course if you wear something that obviously shows poor judgment, it's going to get held against you; but I think people in this thread overthink things. Use common sense. Period. I guess Pufer's advice holds well for people who don't have a lot of common sense in the professional fashion department, but come on. Anyway, I do think that this thread has been incredibly useful in spotting when something's on sale or a good buy.Anonymous User wrote: Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.
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need shoes, don't want to spend more than $150 (although i know i should).
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I know that I bashed Nordstrom Rack a little earlier, but I have actually found really good shoes in there. The last time I went through their selection, I saw multiple Allen Edmonds marked down from $300-$400 to $125-200.traehekat wrote:need shoes, don't want to spend more than $150 (although i know i should).
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I was at Macy's the other day and they had some really nice Cole Haan shoes and Johnston & Murphy shoes for 100 and 120 respectively. They both looked really nice (your standard black captoed oxford), and I picked up the Cole Haan pair since I could really use another pair for interviews.traehekat wrote:need shoes, don't want to spend more than $150 (although i know i should).
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I think the advice is more tailored to making sure that there are no negative consequences of what you wear, even if there is only like a 1% chance in it bothering an interviewer, then you might as well just avoid it if you're buying everything fresh.Anonymous User wrote:
Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.
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If an interviewer is going to be bothered by a pale blue shirt, I don't want to work there.beach_terror wrote:I think the advice is more tailored to making sure that there are no negative consequences of what you wear, even if there is only like a 1% chance in it bothering an interviewer, then you might as well just avoid it if you're buying everything fresh.Anonymous User wrote:
Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.
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I know. I understand that the argument is that a white shirt cannot possibly hurt you, whereas you walk a fine line once you start experimenting without any marginal benefit from it. But my advice is for those who actually have sound judgment and the tiny bit of tact necessary to know the limits of experimentation. A very pale blue or cream colored shirt is firmly within the bounds of acceptability (as are thin pinstripes on suits, or different styles of shoes, etc.). Sure, for those who are so clueless that they need to only grab a white shirt for fear of doing something stupid, then the overarching advice is quite sound.beach_terror wrote:I think the advice is more tailored to making sure that there are no negative consequences of what you wear, even if there is only like a 1% chance in it bothering an interviewer, then you might as well just avoid it if you're buying everything fresh.Anonymous User wrote:
Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.
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I hear you, and if that was recommended then I think you're right. I was just defending Pufer's line of thinking is all.Helmholtz wrote:If an interviewer is going to be bothered by a pale blue shirt, I don't want to work there.beach_terror wrote:I think the advice is more tailored to making sure that there are no negative consequences of what you wear, even if there is only like a 1% chance in it bothering an interviewer, then you might as well just avoid it if you're buying everything fresh.Anonymous User wrote:
Its not that the overarching advice on here is wrong, but it certainly isn't the end-all. I went with a pale blue shirt the other day to a screener at a big firm and got a callback within 2 hours of the interview. Trust me, they don't care whether your shirt is pale blue or white. They care about your resume, personality, ability to hold a conversation, writing skills, etc. Can you go wrong with a plain white shirt? No. But that doesn't mean that the only acceptable thing for an interview.
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If an interviewer is going to be bothered by a pale blue shirt, I don't want to work there.[/quote]Helmholtz wrote:I think the advice is more tailored to making sure that there are no negative consequences of what you wear, even if there is only like a 1% chance in it bothering an interviewer, then you might as well just avoid it if you're buying everything fresh.
I agree that the "WHITE SHIRTS ONLY!" thing is a bit overdone (and I'm an extremely conservative dresser). That said, not wanting to work at a firm of hundreds of people because one particular person has a problem with pale blue shirts is silly.
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