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This is very obviously the advice of someone who did interviews before Covid. Nothing is the same.nealric wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 amYou aren't going to get any useful data about this. It will vary quite a bit from school to school, year to year, and candidate to candidate. For example, a school with pre-select may be different from what that is all bids.
As a general rule, if you get a callback, the offer is probably yours more likely than not (though far from guaranteed).
I did mine during the great recession where 0% callback to offer conversion was quite common. I went 1 for 7. I don't think pre-post COVID is a particularly useful metric. It's a question of whether it's a strong or weak hiring year. 2022 would have been a stronger year than 2023. But it's also school/location/firm dependent.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmThis is very obviously the advice of someone who did interviews before Covid. Nothing is the same.nealric wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 amYou aren't going to get any useful data about this. It will vary quite a bit from school to school, year to year, and candidate to candidate. For example, a school with pre-select may be different from what that is all bids.
As a general rule, if you get a callback, the offer is probably yours more likely than not (though far from guaranteed).
What you don’t seem to understand is 1) the pre select vs lottery school distinction is far less relevant now that official OCI is an afterthought, and 2) callback to offer rates seem to be lower across the board, regardless of the economy, because the structure of the interview system has changed so much (e.g., many firms skip screeners completely and send you straight to callback). COVID shifted the system to more virtual interviews and IMO it seems easier to get the interview but not necessarily easier to get the offer now.nealric wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:58 amI did mine during the great recession where 0% callback to offer conversion was quite common. I went 1 for 7. I don't think pre-post COVID is a particularly useful metric. It's a question of whether it's a strong or weak hiring year. 2022 would have been a stronger year than 2023. But it's also school/location/firm dependent.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmThis is very obviously the advice of someone who did interviews before Covid. Nothing is the same.nealric wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 amYou aren't going to get any useful data about this. It will vary quite a bit from school to school, year to year, and candidate to candidate. For example, a school with pre-select may be different from what that is all bids.
As a general rule, if you get a callback, the offer is probably yours more likely than not (though far from guaranteed).
Fair enough, but I'm referring to a traditional callback when a firm pays for you to travel, puts you up in a hotel, and interviews you at least a substantial portion of the day. Perhaps things have changed such that firms aren't doing this anymore, but it's still an investment in the candidate that they wouldn't do if they weren't at least somewhat serious. But we've only had 2 real post-COVID recruiting cycles and things are very clearly in flux.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:42 amWhat you don’t seem to understand is 1) the pre select vs lottery school distinction is far less relevant now that official OCI is an afterthought, and 2) callback to offer rates seem to be lower across the board, regardless of the economy, because the structure of the interview system has changed so much (e.g., many firms skip screeners completely and send you straight to callback). COVID shifted the system to more virtual interviews and IMO it seems easier to get the interview but not necessarily easier to get the offer now.nealric wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:58 amI did mine during the great recession where 0% callback to offer conversion was quite common. I went 1 for 7. I don't think pre-post COVID is a particularly useful metric. It's a question of whether it's a strong or weak hiring year. 2022 would have been a stronger year than 2023. But it's also school/location/firm dependent.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmThis is very obviously the advice of someone who did interviews before Covid. Nothing is the same.nealric wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 amYou aren't going to get any useful data about this. It will vary quite a bit from school to school, year to year, and candidate to candidate. For example, a school with pre-select may be different from what that is all bids.
As a general rule, if you get a callback, the offer is probably yours more likely than not (though far from guaranteed).
pre-covid cb/offer rates were brutal. I went something like 7/22.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:42 amWhat you don’t seem to understand is 1) the pre select vs lottery school distinction is far less relevant now that official OCI is an afterthought, and 2) callback to offer rates seem to be lower across the board, regardless of the economy, because the structure of the interview system has changed so much (e.g., many firms skip screeners completely and send you straight to callback). COVID shifted the system to more virtual interviews and IMO it seems easier to get the interview but not necessarily easier to get the offer now.nealric wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:58 amI did mine during the great recession where 0% callback to offer conversion was quite common. I went 1 for 7. I don't think pre-post COVID is a particularly useful metric. It's a question of whether it's a strong or weak hiring year. 2022 would have been a stronger year than 2023. But it's also school/location/firm dependent.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:17 pmThis is very obviously the advice of someone who did interviews before Covid. Nothing is the same.nealric wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:32 amYou aren't going to get any useful data about this. It will vary quite a bit from school to school, year to year, and candidate to candidate. For example, a school with pre-select may be different from what that is all bids.
As a general rule, if you get a callback, the offer is probably yours more likely than not (though far from guaranteed).
You got 22 callbacks???Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:06 ampre-covid cb/offer rates were brutal. I went something like 7/22.
offer rates are strong you guys just got comfy with covid hiring.
I think the New York offices that hire large classes do tend to have higher CB/offer ratios. The big NY firms are also traditionally less likely to no-offer SAs. I don't know if it's still true, but it was the case 10-15 years ago that Texas firms were much more likely to no-offer (perhaps in part due to the tradition of split summers).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:39 amWonder if it varies materially across locations. I bid in DC and NY and I remember going for 0 for 4 in DC but 4 for 5 in New York.