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looking at vault, GDC had about double the no-offer rate of firms like Skadden/Latham (181/187 = ~96.7 vs. about 99%). Anyone have insight into this?

IIRC they no-offer instead of cold offer.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:36 pm

IIRC they no-offer instead of cold offer.

hm i assume its still instances of trying to fuck up? or are summers competing for limited offers?

While the vast majority of summers receive offers, Gibson has a well-documented history of more no-offers than its peers. (See anecdotal reports dating back 10+ years on these forums, plus more concrete NALP data.)

The grade-drop rationale for this phenomenon seems apocryphal; more likely, it’s just that GDC prefers to dispense with the kabuki theater of cold offers, call it like it is, and cut loose the handful of summers deemed a bad fit.

uygiugiyugyugk wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:36 pm

IIRC they no-offer instead of cold offer.

hm i assume its still instances of trying to fuck up? or are summers competing for limited offers?

idk if it's possible to characterize a 96.7% offer rate as "competing for limited offers" lol

"One hundred eighty-seven of you in the conference room today. Only one hundred eighty-one of you will receive offers. We want the best of the best. Prepare for the grand royale"

2022 GDC summer. Firm was very clear they had offers for everyone available, but that the hiring team does actually review our work before giving them out (unlike some firms that automatically offer the entire class as long as no one does anything insane). They repeatedly warned us that we had to complete a substantial writing assignment (or a couple smaller ones), such as a memo, reasonably well, and that would be the primary factor in deciding whether we would get an offer. They also said we should be meeting our deadlines, and more than one request for an extension would be a problem. Many in my class hardcore believed the "once you get a 2L position, you're guaranteed the job," and some people were actively blowing off/not completing/trying to get out of assignments b/c they swore it didn't matter and big law was a social program anyway. Heard one student say they wouldn't do the memo they were assigned b/c "[their] school [T6] [would] ruin GDC if they no-offer me." Would not be surprised if the no-offers were largely that kind of behavior.

I would not be worried if I were a GDC summer who actually did my work and didn't, like, do coke in front of my summer coordinators or say something blatantly racist to a partner.

Edit to add: By substantial writing, I mean like 10 pages total over the course of the summer.

Was anything said about maintaining GPA?