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Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:24 am
by Anonymous User
I am coming off a federal clerkship and looking into DC firms. Some--like WH, LW, and GB--say they give seniority credit to former clerks. I assume that means 1 year credit for a 1 year clerkship.
Other firms--like C&B, W&C, and A&P--are unclear about whether they offer seniority credit.
Am I correct that seniority/progression credit generally means 1 year credit for a 1-year clerkship?
And does anyone have info about credit at Covington, Williams & Connolly, and Arnold & Porter?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:05 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:24 am
I am coming off a federal clerkship and looking into DC firms. Some--like WH, LW, and GB--say they give seniority credit to former clerks. I assume that means 1 year credit for a 1 year clerkship.
Other firms--like C&B, W&C, and A&P--are unclear about whether they offer seniority credit.
Am I correct that seniority/progression credit generally means 1 year credit for a 1-year clerkship?
And does anyone have info about credit at Covington, Williams & Connolly, and Arnold & Porter?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Can confirm that in general 1 year = 1 year at WH, at least for everyone I know. Don't know about the other firms you mentioned.
Anecdotally, I don't know anybody (at WH or elsewhere) who got more than 1 year credit for a clerkship aside from the equivalent of a class year bump based on JD's black box comp structure. However, I do know some folks who got less at other firms (e.g., one person at another firm joined corporate a class year behind after a federal clerkship and another got the same treatment after working as a clerk/staff attorney at a major federal agency the firm deals with routinely).
Anyway, even if one of these firms tries to start you a year behind, you can obviously try to negotiate that up (as well as your bonus).
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:05 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:24 am
I am coming off a federal clerkship and looking into DC firms. Some--like WH, LW, and GB--say they give seniority credit to former clerks. I assume that means 1 year credit for a 1 year clerkship.
Other firms--like C&B, W&C, and A&P--are unclear about whether they offer seniority credit.
Am I correct that seniority/progression credit generally means 1 year credit for a 1-year clerkship?
And does anyone have info about credit at Covington, Williams & Connolly, and Arnold & Porter?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Can confirm that in general 1 year = 1 year at WH, at least for everyone I know. Don't know about the other firms you mentioned.
Anecdotally, I don't know anybody (at WH or elsewhere) who got more than 1 year credit for a clerkship aside from the equivalent of a class year bump based on JD's black box comp structure. However, I do know some folks who got less at other firms (e.g., one person at another firm joined corporate a class year behind after a federal clerkship and another got the same treatment after working as a clerk/staff attorney at a major federal agency the firm deals with routinely).
Anyway, even if one of these firms tries to start you a year behind, you can obviously try to negotiate that up (as well as your bonus).
I got one year class credit in my offer at W&C
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:21 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:05 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:24 am
I am coming off a federal clerkship and looking into DC firms. Some--like WH, LW, and GB--say they give seniority credit to former clerks. I assume that means 1 year credit for a 1 year clerkship.
Other firms--like C&B, W&C, and A&P--are unclear about whether they offer seniority credit.
Am I correct that seniority/progression credit generally means 1 year credit for a 1-year clerkship?
And does anyone have info about credit at Covington, Williams & Connolly, and Arnold & Porter?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Can confirm that in general 1 year = 1 year at WH, at least for everyone I know. Don't know about the other firms you mentioned.
Anecdotally, I don't know anybody (at WH or elsewhere) who got more than 1 year credit for a clerkship aside from the equivalent of a class year bump based on JD's black box comp structure. However, I do know some folks who got less at other firms (e.g., one person at another firm joined corporate a class year behind after a federal clerkship and another got the same treatment after working as a clerk/staff attorney at a major federal agency the firm deals with routinely).
Anyway, even if one of these firms tries to start you a year behind, you can obviously try to negotiate that up (as well as your bonus).
I got one year class credit in my offer at W&C
This is even with having clerked for more than one year?
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:32 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:21 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:05 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:24 am
I am coming off a federal clerkship and looking into DC firms. Some--like WH, LW, and GB--say they give seniority credit to former clerks. I assume that means 1 year credit for a 1 year clerkship.
Other firms--like C&B, W&C, and A&P--are unclear about whether they offer seniority credit.
Am I correct that seniority/progression credit generally means 1 year credit for a 1-year clerkship?
And does anyone have info about credit at Covington, Williams & Connolly, and Arnold & Porter?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Can confirm that in general 1 year = 1 year at WH, at least for everyone I know. Don't know about the other firms you mentioned.
Anecdotally, I don't know anybody (at WH or elsewhere) who got more than 1 year credit for a clerkship aside from the equivalent of a class year bump based on JD's black box comp structure. However, I do know some folks who got less at other firms (e.g., one person at another firm joined corporate a class year behind after a federal clerkship and another got the same treatment after working as a clerk/staff attorney at a major federal agency the firm deals with routinely).
Anyway, even if one of these firms tries to start you a year behind, you can obviously try to negotiate that up (as well as your bonus).
I got one year class credit in my offer at W&C
This is even with having clerked for more than one year?
If you have two different clerkships, you are typically given a year of credit for each. The only quirk is when someone has a 2-year clerkship. But, by and large, you will be given two years of credit for a D. Ct. and COA clerkship.
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:11 pm
by Anonymous User
I received two years of class credit at WC for two different clerkships.
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:24 pm
by Anonymous User
OP here.
Thanks; the information regarding WH and W&C is helpful. Any info regarding Cov and A&P would be appreciated.
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:44 am
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:11 pm
I received two years of class credit at WC for two different clerkships.
Same at Cov
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:30 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:44 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:11 pm
I received two years of class credit at WC for two different clerkships.
Same at Cov
Same at A&P.
Re: Class/seniority credit for judicial clerks at DC firms?
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:39 pm
by Anonymous User
Thanks for the additional responses. Unless Cov and A&P are very strange, I assume that means they still give (1 year of) credit if you clerked for only 1 year.