List of Firms Not Mandating RTO
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:20 am
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Quinn Emanuel
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It would be helpful to name your firm. I think a lot of us who want soft or no RTO will reward firms who have such policies, so please name so we can apply.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:36 amMaybe it's worth distinguishing between firms with "hard" RTO requirements (i.e., you get a slap on the wrist when you don't comply) and "soft" RTO requirements (i.e., nobody really tracks anything, but the official policy is RTO). My firm is in the latter category - I haven't been in the office for 2 weeks and nobody said anything. This is probably not only firm, but also office dependent.
It seems to me that soft policies like this will not only be office specific but probably group and partner specific.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:33 amIt would be helpful to name your firm. I think a lot of us who want soft or no RTO will reward firms who have such policies, so please name so we can apply.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:36 amMaybe it's worth distinguishing between firms with "hard" RTO requirements (i.e., you get a slap on the wrist when you don't comply) and "soft" RTO requirements (i.e., nobody really tracks anything, but the official policy is RTO). My firm is in the latter category - I haven't been in the office for 2 weeks and nobody said anything. This is probably not only firm, but also office dependent.
This is true at my firm and my previous firm. Current firm is a satellite and only secretaries go to office on a rotating schedule. The other larger offices want to have face time.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:14 amIt seems to me that soft policies like this will not only be office specific but probably group and partner specific.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:33 amIt would be helpful to name your firm. I think a lot of us who want soft or no RTO will reward firms who have such policies, so please name so we can apply.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:36 amMaybe it's worth distinguishing between firms with "hard" RTO requirements (i.e., you get a slap on the wrist when you don't comply) and "soft" RTO requirements (i.e., nobody really tracks anything, but the official policy is RTO). My firm is in the latter category - I haven't been in the office for 2 weeks and nobody said anything. This is probably not only firm, but also office dependent.
Fucking boomers.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:47 pmMy white shoe nyc firm is so not chill about remote work. We have a 3-4 day requirement, and partners are serious about it. I heard two partners walking down the hall this week talking about how "people work from home with just a sniffle these days . . . we used to show up."
So how has it been going?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:35 amwork at white/case in Nyc -- we have an official 2 day anchor policy + a 1 day floater requirement. This began Oct. 17, they sent multiple emails about how they would monitor our compliance and bring it up in our reviews. So far, have been in 1x and will go again tomorrow. The 1 day I was in two weeks ago 4 partners on my floor showed up and about 15 associates out of the whole group. My group is not particularly heavy on RTO and resisted anchor days the last year because the partners themselves could not decide on which days to be in the office. Resulted in a typical 4-5 attendees at that management level, no senior associates/midlevels on any given day, and a few regular juniors.
Will report on an update after. So far, I have not been approached or spoken to about my attendance. Prior to this I went in about 16 times over the passed year, maximum. Immune compromised so not planning to comply with RTO until it's clear compliance is not negligent. Firm has sent around emails about how masking/vaccines are no longer required in the office so feel pretty strongly about this and would be GENUINELY surprised if enforcement was a thing against non-M&A folks (they're just slower now) and/or people with regular billables.
Can confirm for both LA and OC offices as well.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 12:47 amThe official policy for Gibson Dunn's US offices is "do what works for you." YMMV based on practice group, but at least in the DC office there's no expectation of coming in in person.
San Diego Perkins isn't requiring anything either, though the litigation folks definitely seem to be in more often since some of the partners are in every day. Iirc we were just told to come in "as needed."Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:57 pmPerkins isn’t mandating anything in at least some offices (mine included). May be partner/group specific. I believe Seattle is pushing for 3 days a week, but we don’t have an official firm-wide policy yet other than “hybrid.”
Only recently made it in -- so far no enforcement & group partners are also ignoring the mandate.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:19 pmSo how has it been going?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:35 amwork at white/case in Nyc -- we have an official 2 day anchor policy + a 1 day floater requirement. This began Oct. 17, they sent multiple emails about how they would monitor our compliance and bring it up in our reviews. So far, have been in 1x and will go again tomorrow. The 1 day I was in two weeks ago 4 partners on my floor showed up and about 15 associates out of the whole group. My group is not particularly heavy on RTO and resisted anchor days the last year because the partners themselves could not decide on which days to be in the office. Resulted in a typical 4-5 attendees at that management level, no senior associates/midlevels on any given day, and a few regular juniors.
Will report on an update after. So far, I have not been approached or spoken to about my attendance. Prior to this I went in about 16 times over the passed year, maximum. Immune compromised so not planning to comply with RTO until it's clear compliance is not negligent. Firm has sent around emails about how masking/vaccines are no longer required in the office so feel pretty strongly about this and would be GENUINELY surprised if enforcement was a thing against non-M&A folks (they're just slower now) and/or people with regular billables.
At my firm, I flat out refused to go in. Most of my colleagues have gone in again though, but I hung up some story that I did not feel comfortable considering the ongoing pandemic and that was that. We'll see if it leads to me being let go, but so be it, if that is the case. I feel my colleagues somewhat are jealous, but not my problem that they apparently didn't have the audacity to demand WFH.