NY Firms No-Offering Forum

[Anonymous User]

(Not OP btw) Certainly there needs to be more corroboration, but is it hard to consider the possibility that the NY SAs are in group chats and word quickly spread that several of them were given the same cold offer talk during their reviews?

I don't know how eager NY SAs would be to spread the news about being cold offered. Putting that in a group chat seems a bit unlikely to me. Someone mentioned that there's a possibility that a large group of summers were involved in something particularly egregious and were therefore cold offered. This, though still unlikely, seems more plausible to me than a bunch of aggressive SAs outing themselves for being cold offered.

Edit: If the offer process in NY works anything like Chicago, no one has even brought up when our reviews would be yet for Chicago. Is KE NY already doing reviews?

[Anonymous User]

years ago it would have been unthinkable to confess to someone you got no offered. the notion that people are casually sharing that news in a group chat seems crazy to me, does not align with how this stuff goes.

[Anonymous User]

Normally I live for toxic TLS threads with drama and gossip but as an NY SA with the final review/offer decision coming up next week, I am straight up not having a good time lol thx OP

[Res Ipsa Loquitter]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

[Anonymous User]

Was one of the people cold-offered . . . Sent my partner a Tower 7 hoax videos at 330am while at Marquee

[Anonymous User]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

Can you tell us any more if possible? Is this a mass cold offering relating to one event? Did a bunch of summers just for some reason mega shit the bed? Is this Kirkland trying to course correct and just cutting its bottom performers?

[Anonymous User]

This is an excellent troll. SAs so close they can taste it now cannot stop refreshing the thread.

[Anonymous User]

years ago it would have been unthinkable to confess to someone you got no offered. the notion that people are casually sharing that news in a group chat seems crazy to me, does not align with how this stuff goes.

Zoomers overshare

[Anonymous User]

Summers be like "a partner told me my work was the best they've ever seen and they want to legally adopt me. Am I getting no offered???"

[Anonymous User]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

Of all 20 of them? Lol.

I am anon because I work at K&E and don't want to out myself. We haven't even had reviews yet. The idea that 20 summers have been cold-offered is ridiculous. You should share the nature of this corroboration with us or at very least a mod. And note that one person that was cold offered sharing that they were doesn't corroborate 20 cold offers.

[Anonymous User]

this is just a rumor right now

source: trust me bro (not /s)

[Anonymous User]

What the hell even goes on at these end of summer reviews. My end of summer review was like a 3 minute sit down with a Partner and he had like this sheet in front of him and was like it says here you respond to emails and are a team player, good job we would like to make you an offer. It was easily the most milquetoast and useless "feedback" I have ever recieved. I really can't fathom how 20 Kirkland SAs could separately fuck up that bad to not survive what is perhaps the softest, most eggshell feedback they will ever have recieved in their entire life, pre-school report card included.

[Res Ipsa Loquitter]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

Of all 20 of them? Lol.

I am anon because I work at K&E and don't want to out myself. We haven't even had reviews yet. The idea that 20 summers have been cold-offered is ridiculous. You should share the nature of this corroboration with us or at very least a mod. And note that one person that was cold offered sharing that they were doesn't corroborate 20 cold offers.

Sorry. I was slammed. Meant to add, that I heard about cold offers but No clue if # is 20

[Anonymous User]

... do we know what any of the cold offers did? I know someone said insult a partner/behave egregiously, but any more context?

[Anonymous User]

neurotic summer, but is it grounds for no offer in this climate to have missed an internal due date as a result of miscommunication but many summers asked for an extension and the due date got moved and I got the work product in well in advance of the moved due date? Apologized and was told not to worry abt it but, yknow, anxious

[Anonymous User]

neurotic summer, but is it grounds for no offer in this climate to have missed an internal due date as a result of miscommunication but many summers asked for an extension and the due date got moved and I got the work product in well in advance of the moved due date? Apologized and was told not to worry abt it but, yknow, anxious

You're fine.

[Anonymous User]

What a heinous thread. Some SA (or maybe a few) likely got an offer convo that provided positive and negative feedback, and it's transmuted into a mass culling of Purple, Monkey & Dishwasher LLP SAs.

[BrowsingTLS]

For sure, I'm not taking anything personally, sorry if it comes across that way. I do have a problem with people insinuating that i should be un-anon'd or insinuating that i'm lying. I'm only posting in accordance with the purpose of this thread. I believe what my friend said it and that friend has no reason to lie. What I said is based on "evidence" that I got as opposed to what anyone else chooses to believe or say, unless that person can conclusively disprove that what my friend said is false.

In terms of how "flimsy", this info is- I mean, someone who works for the company told me this. Like i said, I'm happy to be disproven. In terms of verification, what I mean is that I can verify what was said was said, and the info is coming from someone who would/could have knowledge of that matter, in terms of a SA at Kirkland and that they are asserting it as true.

I only said you should un-anon'd if it turns out that you were trolling the board by fabricating the story wholecloth.

Honestly didn't think the user should be banned for posting an obviously false story, but piling on more incredible lies because they don't want to be de-anon'd has moved me in favor of banning them. Or at least outing them.

Dumbass posts. K&E did not no-offer 20 summer associates. And I don't even work there.

Edit: Nevermind. The mods outted the user. No I'm not lying about them outing the user. I can verify it. A completely real summer associate who I'm not making up and who is summering with TLS told me that the mods outted the user. He also told me that TLS is no-offering 20 of its summers. totally real.

[Anonymous User]

For sure, I'm not taking anything personally, sorry if it comes across that way. I do have a problem with people insinuating that i should be un-anon'd or insinuating that i'm lying. I'm only posting in accordance with the purpose of this thread. I believe what my friend said it and that friend has no reason to lie. What I said is based on "evidence" that I got as opposed to what anyone else chooses to believe or say, unless that person can conclusively disprove that what my friend said is false.

In terms of how "flimsy", this info is- I mean, someone who works for the company told me this. Like i said, I'm happy to be disproven. In terms of verification, what I mean is that I can verify what was said was said, and the info is coming from someone who would/could have knowledge of that matter, in terms of a SA at Kirkland and that they are asserting it as true.

I only said you should un-anon'd if it turns out that you were trolling the board by fabricating the story wholecloth.

Honestly didn't think the user should be banned for posting an obviously false story, but piling on more incredible lies because they don't want to be de-anon'd has moved me in favor of banning them. Or at least outing them.

Dumbass posts. K&E did not no-offer 20 summer associates. And I don't even work there.

Edit: Nevermind. The mods outted the user. No I'm not lying about them outing the user. I can verify it. A completely real summer associate who I'm not making up and who is summering with TLS told me that the mods outted the user. He also told me that TLS is no-offering 20 of its summers. totally real.

It's especially egregious when you take into account how laid back Kirkland's SA program is. OP's post has done nothing but induce further anxiety and create a frenzy. To be cold offered at Kirkland, you have to have really offended someone in an objectively profound way. It would have to be blatantly poor behavior such as being transparently and hideously nasty to others. Anyone that actually works in a Kirkland office should be able to call bullshit on the claims that people are getting cold offered for not responding to emails or missing work deadlines.

Further, NY's Kirkland office is full of gunners. The idea that there are 20 of them that are unaware, careless, or dumb enough to behave in such an obnoxious fashion is ludicrous. One or two? Sure. With a summer class of 400, you'll have some rotten ones. More than a handful in one office?

[Crazystallion]

Best advice ever for Summers? Don't drink. I know I know, but trust me on this.

[temp69420]

Best advice ever for Summers? Don't drink. I know I know, but trust me on this.

Good life advice more generally. Keep it to a drink or two, or at least try to be the least drunk person at every event. The opportunities for saying/doing something stupid and damaging your career never end.

[Anonymous User]

We (Kirkland) emphatically are not going to be cold-offering summers. My goodness does this place get absurd sometimes.

Anon for obvious reasons.

[Res Ipsa Loquitter]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

My source on the inside, who had been refusing to reveal his/her source, just revealed that their source was actually this thread. So now I have no clue what’s going on.

[Anonymous User]

If I were KE I'd have staff post here at this point tbh.

[Anonymous User]

I have independently received corroboration of these cold offers

My source on the inside, who had been refusing to reveal his/her source, just revealed that their source was actually this thread. So now I have no clue what’s going on.

I think you just confirmed nothing is happening. If anything, some KE summers know they deserve to be cold-offered and now they got all paranoid due to this troll and the whole thing has spiraled.