Is it weird to put DS on resume?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:37 pm
Rising 2L at HLS. OCS recommends listing “any Dean’s Scholar Prizes you have received in the Honors section for HLS.” It feels weird though. Thoughts?
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It’s not weird. People put cali awards at other schools . I had mine on my resume and got callbacks everywhere. Some people didn’t know what it meant and asked about it, and you just say it’s like a cali or an a+, then make fun of harvards stupid grading system.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:37 pmRising 2L at HLS. OCS recommends listing “any Dean’s Scholar Prizes you have received in the Honors section for HLS.” It feels weird though. Thoughts?
Hold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
If you’re still in law school or fewer than 5 years out, it’s not cringe. Otherwise, it’s cringe.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
vaguely arbitrary but imo a named award is fine because it's like an 'official' prize from the school that the school spent enough time or whatever to force professors to think about and give out and associate with a specific name etcAnonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
My cohort at HLS pretty universally, if softly, mocked anyone who did this. If you are *in* law school, then anywhere you’re applying will have your full transcript and your resume (where you can individually list DSs if you want). If you’ve graduated, then ditto, plus you have a Latin honors designation. So listing individual DSs on LinkedIn doesn’t have much of a point other than bragging to your friends, which is not a good look.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
My cohort at HLS pretty universally, if softly, mocked anyone who did this. If you are *in* law school, then anywhere you’re applying will have your full transcript and your resume (where you can individually list DSs if you want). If you’ve graduated, then ditto, plus you have a Latin honors designation. So listing individual DSs on LinkedIn doesn’t have much of a point other than bragging to your friends, which is not a good look.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
LBJ's Hair wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:39 amvaguely arbitrary but imo a named award is fine because it's like an 'official' prize from the school that the school spent enough time or whatever to force professors to think about and give out and associate with a specific name etcAnonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
anything else is sort of embarrassing. like, you're just posting (some of) your...grades? I wouldn't put "got an A+ in contracts" on my law firm bio lmao
re 'CALI awards' specifically - honestly I had not heard of these things until I graduated and started reviewing clerkship applications and kids from shitty law schools would list them. I continue to associate them with that, sorry - like they're "the thing gunners from bad law schools brag about"
CLS doesn't either! Wait, that is because we never get SOCTUS clerks...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:48 pmNo, don't put your DSs on your resume. It just signals you got only a few, and yeah it seems like the CALI awards folks from obviously lower-ranked schools list.
There's a reason HLS/YLS/SLS don't publish 1-pager press releases on their websites or LinkedIn for every person who snags a SCOTUS clerkship, while lower-ranked schools always do.
I mean by definition, a rising 2L is "only" going to have a few DS's.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:48 pmNo, don't put your DSs on your resume. It just signals you got only a few, and yeah it seems like the CALI awards folks from obviously lower-ranked schools list.
Eh, CVs aren't especially good comparators. She also mentions a review of her work on jotwell.com ("The Journal of Things We Like (Lots)") and has three and half pages of "Popular Writing" and then mentions having worked at Covington DC and Wilmer DC. She lists every single speaking engagement or presentation she's given, in chronological order, a plurality of which are about presentations of her paper—including one at the "University of Wisconsin Con Law Schmooze."Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:28 pmHere's a scotus clerk's CV. She puts best exam awards (under education, honors). https://michigan.law.umich.edu/sites/de ... 203.7.docx
Law professor CVs aren't a good way to tell these things - they basically have to keep track of all these engagements and awards and display them in a way practitioners do not.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:28 pmEh, CVs aren't especially good comparators. She also mentions a review of her work on jotwell.com ("The Journal of Things We Like (Lots)") and has three and half pages of "Popular Writing" and then mentions having worked at Covington DC and Wilmer DC. She lists every single speaking engagement or presentation she's given, in chronological order, a plurality of which are about presentations of her paper—including one at the "University of Wisconsin Con Law Schmooze."Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:28 pmHere's a scotus clerk's CV. She puts best exam awards (under education, honors). https://michigan.law.umich.edu/sites/de ... 203.7.docx
It's a fundamentally different document, where throwing everything in is the goal.
My thing is that I tend not to think that I’m going to get real job opportunities based on people reading my LinkedIn out of the blue, so there’s no need to pull out all the stops to try to look as shiny and special as possible. I have LinkedIn more so that if someone Googles me, there’s something reasonably professional to look at, or for other networking that’s not about directly applying for a job where the other person doesn’t need *every* detail about me.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:54 pmHold up, is it cringe to put DS/CALI/top-scorer equivalent awards underneath your law school on LinkedIn? Can I get a second opinion on this?
Does it matter if you are still in law school vs. graduated? What if the award lines up with the practice area you’re trying to enter?
(I’m personally not at HLS but another t14, FWIW)
Disagree with this. If you go to Cornell or Georgetown, there's no need to list a CALI award on your resume. If your GPA is good, then the CALI award doesn't provide much, if any, additional useful information. If your GPA isn't great, a CALI award or two won't move the needle. This is also my perspective for lower-ranked schools, but I can at least get why a student from, say, New England Law, might want to list all the CALI awards they've gotten. You don't really need to do that at a non-T6 T14, imo.CanadianWolf wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 amSince you are at HLS, adding DS to your resume should be limited to your practice area in my opinion.
If from a non-T6, then my view is that all such distinctions--such as CALI awards--should be noted.
Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 6:37 pmRising 2L at HLS. OCS recommends listing “any Dean’s Scholar Prizes you have received in the Honors section for HLS.” It feels weird though. Thoughts?
It comes off as snobby and cringey to me. I would never list anything besides Latin honors on a resume other than a named award that is widely known.
It's around 5-7% apparently. Not quite a CALI A+. More like a NU/GULC A+ (top 5-10%).Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:25 pmIs a DS just like a generic A+? Asking bc I got an award for getting #1 in a doctrinal class at my T14 thats taught by someone very prominent in that field and I was planning on putting it on my resume.
Put this on your resumeAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:25 pmIs a DS just like a generic A+? Asking bc I got an award for getting #1 in a doctrinal class at my T14 thats taught by someone very prominent in that field and I was planning on putting it on my resume.