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Thought I'd add a spot to post pre-OCI happenings/timelines/advice. Past threads have had useful information.

Thanks! I want to know when will we start to see movements in NY? Also, does pre-oci usually contain a screener or goes straight to CB?

FWIW, I believe it is usually straight to call back and I believe STB NY has started interviews.

mmlawschool wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 1:05 pm

Thanks! I want to know when will we start to see movements in NY? Also, does pre-oci usually contain a screener or goes straight to CB?

Likely mid/late June is when first movement will start.

Straight to CB

Anyone know much about LA timelines? I know Latham is moving already -- I have a callback this week.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:29 pm

Anyone know much about LA timelines? I know Latham is moving already -- I have a callback this week.

How long did the turn around from submitting your application --> screener and screener --> take for you?

staygoldenponyboy wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:29 pm

Anyone know much about LA timelines? I know Latham is moving already -- I have a callback this week.

How long did the turn around from submitting your application --> screener and screener --> take for you?

Never applied, just networked really hard. I got a screener offer about a week after giving an associate my resume, then a callback offer a week after the screener.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:06 pm

staygoldenponyboy wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:29 pm

Anyone know much about LA timelines? I know Latham is moving already -- I have a callback this week.

How long did the turn around from submitting your application --> screener and screener --> take for you?

Never applied, just networked really hard. I got a screener offer about a week after giving an associate my resume, then a callback offer a week after the screener.

Good stuff!

A lot of NYC firms just posted on our symplicity site yesterday. Imagine they will start scheduling pre OCI interviews next week or week after, once apps roll in.

re timelines, things will move fast if they want you. I wouldn’t stress too much about application —> screener/cb as sometimes schedules just don’t work or applications slip through the cracks for a week, but everything after that should typically be <1 week turnaround. This is my experience in NY specifically.

STB, for example, is typically cb—> offer within a week. anything longer than a week you’re being effectively waitlisted. again though, this was NY - I did pre-oci in a smaller market and waited a month between screener and cb

Do you think next week is when we will start seeing movement in ny?

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:15 pm

Do you think next week is when we will start seeing movement in ny?

Have two callbacks scheduled at V5 firms -- so there is definitely already movement!

Good luck! When did you submit your applications?

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:15 pm

Do you think next week is when we will start seeing movement in ny?

Have two callbacks scheduled at V5 firms -- so there is definitely already movement!

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:27 pm

Good luck! When did you submit your applications?

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:15 pm

Do you think next week is when we will start seeing movement in ny?

Have two callbacks scheduled at V5 firms -- so there is definitely already movement!

Late last week for both, so they are moving pretty fast for sure. And thank you!

Been applying for the past two weeks and got a V20 callback earlier this week. Feeling kinda anxious that I won't hear back from another firm again... Also, does anyone know what the chances of pre-OCI CB --> offer are?

plasticbag22 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:30 am

Been applying for the past two weeks and got a V20 callback earlier this week. Feeling kinda anxious that I won't hear back from another firm again... Also, does anyone know what the chances of pre-OCI CB --> offer are?

nah nobody knows for sure. just do your best and you’ll get an offer if your gpa is in range

Just adding another data point. Applied broadly from mid-May - early June. Received 2 callback requests last week (V10 and V20). Had callbacks this week, one went from CB --> offer in ~24 hours. Haven't heard from the other yet.

For those who’ve gotten offers - how long are they giving you to accept/reject? Is 14 days the industry standard?

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:36 am

For those who’ve gotten offers - how long are they giving you to accept/reject? Is 14 days the industry standard?

no the industry standard is 14 days after OCI.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:36 am

For those who’ve gotten offers - how long are they giving you to accept/reject? Is 14 days the industry standard?

no the industry standard is 14 days after OCI.

AFAIK, firms apply the same policy they would apply to offers if they were given at OCI. So if they were holding open for 2 weeks after OCI for OCI interviews, they will hold open until 2 weeks after OCI for pre-OCI interviews.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:39 am

re timelines, things will move fast if they want you. I wouldn’t stress too much about application —> screener/cb as sometimes schedules just don’t work or applications slip through the cracks for a week, but everything after that should typically be <1 week turnaround. This is my experience in NY specifically.

STB, for example, is typically cb—> offer within a week. anything longer than a week you’re being effectively waitlisted. again though, this was NY - I did pre-oci in a smaller market and waited a month between screener and cb

Anecdote (did pre-OCI in NYC last year) BUT things move very fast.

Firms that went direct to call back extended callbacks within 3-4 of applications. The firms that did screeners (Skadden, Wilkie, Latham, and MoFo) extended callbacks within 2ish days of the screener.

Offers range a little more but still generally quick. Davis Polk took ~7 business days. PW was ~3 business days (Wednesday -> Monday, believe their committee meets on a Friday). Simpson and SullCrom were next day. Debevoise was same day ~2 hours after interview. Cravath was at the end of interview.

Rejections take much longer: Latham rejection took ~a month. If someone just disappears, they are likely waiting on other applicants to interview or you're getting slapped with the dong.

It also kinda does feel a bit random - to this day I do not understand my Latham dong.

That's all the time line insight my ass has.

Has cleary started moving yet?

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:56 am

Has cleary started moving yet?

They only pre-OCI through CIP program which does not move until July (IIRC), it specifies dates on their website

Thank you. I thought they were rolling with the latest interview request to be july.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:56 am

Has cleary started moving yet?

They only pre-OCI through CIP program which does not move until July (IIRC), it specifies dates on their website

Is it okay to ask which firms are doing direct callbacks? Also, is pre-oci a thing for V20-30 ish firms, especially white&case, cooley, goodwin and orrick? Thanks!