Kirkland Megathread Forum

[Anonymous User]

Still pissed at my 1.4x bonus on 3k hours.

Learn to say no to work? Hard to imagine that any bonus is sufficient to compensate for the misery of 3k hours.

What year range are you? That seems low but if you’re senior it’s a pretty big $# still

FYI probably also says something about how the partnership feels about you rather than FUCK Kirkland they fucked you. Most in that range were closer to 1.7.

[Anonymous User]

I lateraled into M&A about a month ago. How do I get staffed around here?

I’ve been doing the coffee rounds, meeting ppl etc. but I still haven’t gotten much work. Probably billed 20 hours in the last month. Is the ramp up really supposed to be this long?

I'm gonna go ahead and bump myself here. I'm seriously getting bored with the lack of work.

Some people hate K&E; some people love K&E. Who gives a shit? Would be great if we could use this thread as a general support group for K&E associates since like 75%+ of us seem to be laterals anyway.

I've heard from at least one other recent K&E lateral that they were slow too.

[Anonymous User]

Double post.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

I assume it’s this one: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd926DKx/

I don’t really think it’s bizarre, although this person went in house to Facebook (or Meta I guess) so I don’t know how much she is really prioritizing her well being now instead. I guess the “bizarre” thing might be her claim that she worked 7 AM to 2 AM every week day?

[Anonymous User]

Facebook is not a QoL improvement over Kirkland? What?

As another recent leaver to a peer company I can tell you that the lifestyle difference is immense. My experience wasn’t as bad as what she suggests but even so the difference is night and day. I am not glued to my phone anymore, everything doesn’t require a response in 30 minutes.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

I assume it’s this one: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd926DKx/

I don’t really think it’s bizarre, although this person went in house to Facebook (or Meta I guess) so I don’t know how much she is really prioritizing her well being now instead. I guess the “bizarre” thing might be her claim that she worked 7 AM to 2 AM every week day?

How did she have the time for the "COOL DRINKS" and "GReAt ParTIes" when she was working "everyday, even CHRISTMAS, 7am - 2am!?!" Come on girl! Get your TikTok stories straight.

[Anonymous User]

Realistically what would happen/how long could I last if I worked 1800-1900 billable hours at Kirkland? Not concerned about making partner or getting a big bonus or any bonus at all.

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

A current KE associate? What was that video about?

[Anonymous User]

If the firm gave you a crisp $100 bill for showing up in person each day, would you come in everyday?

[Anonymous User]

If the firm gave you a crisp $100 bill for showing up in person each day, would you come in everyday?

You're saying, for example, that you could make an extra $2,100 in April if you come in every working day? Pre-tax or post-tax?

[Anonymous User]

If the firm gave you a crisp $100 bill for showing up in person each day, would you come in everyday?

I like how you think. If the firm really wants us to come back, at a minimum they should tell us that coming in more often will increase our bonus multiplier at year end (and NOT that staying at home would harm our bonuses). Even better than that would be some concrete financial incentive like the very good one you suggest. For $100 a day, I’d come back in at least most business days. Right now I’m planning to come in zero days unless there’s a meeting on a Tue/Wed/Thu, but my teams don’t do many of them.

[Anonymous User]

If the firm gave you a crisp $100 bill for showing up in person each day, would you come in everyday?

You're saying, for example, that you could make an extra $2,100 in April if you come in every working day? Pre-tax or post-tax?

I was dreaming………………… but yeah a cash incentive would be so fun

[Anonymous User]

Any insights on the NY m&a team? I know it’s sweatshop-ish, more interested in the culture/ people there.

[legalpotato]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

I assume it’s this one: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd926DKx/

I don’t really think it’s bizarre, although this person went in house to Facebook (or Meta I guess) so I don’t know how much she is really prioritizing her well being now instead. I guess the “bizarre” thing might be her claim that she worked 7 AM to 2 AM every week day?

How did she have the time for the "COOL DRINKS" and "GReAt ParTIes" when she was working "everyday, even CHRISTMAS, 7am - 2am!?!" Come on girl! Get your TikTok stories straight.

Also, in the NY office 1st years get their own office w/ a window? Can NY associates confirm? I would have assumed 1st years share a non-window office.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

I assume it’s this one: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd926DKx/

I don’t really think it’s bizarre, although this person went in house to Facebook (or Meta I guess) so I don’t know how much she is really prioritizing her well being now instead. I guess the “bizarre” thing might be her claim that she worked 7 AM to 2 AM every week day?

How did she have the time for the "COOL DRINKS" and "GReAt ParTIes" when she was working "everyday, even CHRISTMAS, 7am - 2am!?!" Come on girl! Get your TikTok stories straight.

Also, in the NY office 1st years get their own office w/ a window? Can NY associates confirm? I would have assumed 1st years share a non-window office.

She was a 3rd year in 2021.

[legalpotato]

Has anyone seen the tik tok about quitting Kirkland?

Unbelievably bizarre.

Can you post the link?

I assume it’s this one: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTd926DKx/

I don’t really think it’s bizarre, although this person went in house to Facebook (or Meta I guess) so I don’t know how much she is really prioritizing her well being now instead. I guess the “bizarre” thing might be her claim that she worked 7 AM to 2 AM every week day?

How did she have the time for the "COOL DRINKS" and "GReAt ParTIes" when she was working "everyday, even CHRISTMAS, 7am - 2am!?!" Come on girl! Get your TikTok stories straight.

Also, in the NY office 1st years get their own office w/ a window? Can NY associates confirm? I would have assumed 1st years share a non-window office.

She was a 3rd year in 2021.

Ok - that makes sense. The chronology of the video was confusing because it was like "I graduated from law school [picture of graduation] then started at a law firm [picture of office]".

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

I was looking for it on IG and couldn't find it, it was amazing.

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

I was looking for it on IG and couldn't find it, it was amazing.

Context?

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

I was looking for it on IG and couldn't find it, it was amazing.

what did it show/say? the law firm found it and told them to take it down?

[Anonymous User]

That tiktok one doesnt compare to thekidlawyer or whatever on IG a few weeks ago. Looks like he was told to take it down.

I was looking for it on IG and couldn't find it, it was amazing.

what did it show/say? the law firm found it and told them to take it down?

Original anon here that mentioned it. Yes partners saw it. From what I hear, most found it ridiculous and funny but a few were pretty annoyed about it. Guessing he was told to take it down. The video was a hype montage of him working at K&E Chicago. Longing looks in the lounge, walk through the lobby, showing the K&E lobby and firm name throughout. Him in his office talking about grinding etc.

[Anonymous User]

Realistically what would happen/how long could I last if I worked 1800-1900 billable hours at Kirkland? Not concerned about making partner or getting a big bonus or any bonus at all.

I think you could actually last quite a while, at least in the current market. You just have to be really good about saying no and being strategic. Like, I really don’t think anyone would give you shit, let alone fire you, for only billing 1800. But if the hours were uneven and you had a particular month or two with really low hours at the same time everyone at your level was super busy, that could be tricky. Because then it would seem like you’re fucking them over by not taking your share. But if you maintained a steady 150-170 or whatever for most of the year then yeah, bright future.

I imagine this kind of thing is way easier for specialists. In M&A for example, the problem is that each desk you take is a major commitment, and its feast or famine. So you’d be trying to think like how can I do 200-300 hours on each of 7-9 deals throughout the year so that it adds up to ~1800 at the end.

[Anonymous User]

Realistically what would happen/how long could I last if I worked 1800-1900 billable hours at Kirkland? Not concerned about making partner or getting a big bonus or any bonus at all.

I think you could actually last quite a while, at least in the current market. You just have to be really good about saying no and being strategic. Like, I really don’t think anyone would give you shit, let alone fire you, for only billing 1800. But if the hours were uneven and you had a particular month or two with really low hours at the same time everyone at your level was super busy, that could be tricky. Because then it would seem like you’re fucking them over by not taking your share. But if you maintained a steady 150-170 or whatever for most of the year then yeah, bright future.

I imagine this kind of thing is way easier for specialists. In M&A for example, the problem is that each desk you take is a major commitment, and its feast or famine. So you’d be trying to think like how can I do 200-300 hours on each of 7-9 deals throughout the year so that it adds up to ~1800 at the end.

Also worth noting that the firm’s massive attrition makes this hard. Since so many folks leave, there is always a fair share of reallocating workloads where you get calls to help the team out.

All to say, there is a reason people don’t last. Your workload is a constant battle to manage, a feature not a bug of the system btw.