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At which firm are you least mad about slogging 100 hour weeks?

White & Chase

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:51 pm

White & Chase

Great pick. https://abovethelaw.com/2017/06/white-c ... s-awesome/

how would we have more than 2-3 points of comparison?

WilmerHale NYC is legit. Good-to-great views in every direction. The actual design is pretty standard all-glass, but the offices are frosted, so no fishbowl.

It's also the filming location for the Waystar|RoyCo offices in Succession, if you're into that kind of thing.

Edit: correction, the offices are not all-glass. They have actual walls on the sides, and only the hallway side with the door is frosted glass.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:02 pm

WilmerHale NYC is legit. Good-to-great views in every direction. The actual design is pretty standard all-glass, but the offices are frosted, so no fishbowl.

It's also the filming location for the Waystar|RoyCo offices in Succession, if you're into that kind of thing.

Well was it the Roys' offices or Greg's office?

The filming location for the other lawyer in Succession, Kendall's attorney, is the NYC Boies Schiller office. Very fancy.

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Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:02 pm

WilmerHale NYC is legit. Good-to-great views in every direction. The actual design is pretty standard all-glass, but the offices are frosted, so no fishbowl.

It's also the filming location for the Waystar|RoyCo offices in Succession, if you're into that kind of thing.

Well was it the Roys' offices or Greg's office?

The Roys'. They used the north side of the conference room floor. If you're so inclined, you can touch the very same window that Kieran Culkin pretend-urinated on. And the carpet that Brian Cox pretend-urinated on.

Only the executive offices were shot there though. The news studio bits were shot at WTC 4, I think.

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Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:51 pm

White & Chase

Great pick. https://abovethelaw.com/2017/06/white-c ... s-awesome/

Eh I'm not really sure what is supposed to impress me here? If you read through, they have fishbowl offices. Those pods are ridiculous and there's no way anyone actually uses them. The common areas might be cool to walk through but why would you want to spend time there and not in your office. My office has standing desks too, isn't that standard?

Cooley’s office is pretty cool. Associates don’t have offices and partners only have internal offices but the entire office is well designed and really nice (great views as well). They have like curved extra wide monitors to hook your laptop to and fully (might be diff brand) sit stand desks. Can pull your laptop and just go sit in the cafe and work etc.

Agreed on Wilmer as number 1.

You absolutely cannot win this with all glass office walls, unless they are frosted.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:19 pm

Cooley’s office is pretty cool. Associates don’t have offices and partners only have internal offices but the entire office is well designed and really nice (great views as well). They have like curved extra wide monitors to hook your laptop to and fully (might be diff brand) sit stand desks. Can pull your laptop and just go sit in the cafe and work etc.

Yeah I tell people that I sit at cubicle but it's like an incredibly nice cubicle. The ultrawides are incredibly nice to have. I have a 34" ultrawide in my home office and the 38" ultrawides at the office are even better. Nice monitor arms that are fully adjustable. Sit/stand desk is great to have. I think the mouse and keyboard are kind of crummy but I'm a mechanical keyboard/gaming mouse person so maybe I'm spoiled. I'd bring my own keyboard if I had my own office but don't want to annoy people with my clacking.

There basically little "pods" of three desks and so long as you don't have one with your back to the partner offices/walkway, it's decently private. If you get one with your back to the window the view is fantastic and arguably nicer than the partner offices which are internal with glass doors. I've used the office pelotons and shower a few times (don't know if I would do this in non-covid/wfh times though).

Food at the cafe (coffee/espresso is comped) isn't comped but it tastes pretty solid and they usually have at least one healthy option.

My office has really cool offices. Except for the fact that we don't have offices. Really good pretzels tho, unlimited pretzels. Except for when they run out of them. Also coffee, nobody else has coffee only we do. Oops just realized I'm in a coffee shop this isn't the office.

Literally would not care if my office had the greatest views on the planet, a peloton for every associate, and a personal cold brew dispenser on every corner if I didn't have a private office. That is the number one thing that matters.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am

Literally would not care if my office had the greatest views on the planet, a peloton for every associate, and a personal cold brew dispenser on every corner if I didn't have a private office. That is the number one thing that matters.

Well I'm a first-year so I've never been in a full office, but during the WFH era when there's basically no one sitting anywhere near me it feels as private as if I had a door

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am

Literally would not care if my office had the greatest views on the planet, a peloton for every associate, and a personal cold brew dispenser on every corner if I didn't have a private office. That is the number one thing that matters.

This.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am

Literally would not care if my office had the greatest views on the planet, a peloton for every associate, and a personal cold brew dispenser on every corner if I didn't have a private office. That is the number one thing that matters.

+1. Real offices with real walls. That’s the only important thing.

Does anyone have any inside information on the views/interiors of the firms in the new One Vandy building?

Score from 1-10
1. Interior shared offices. Old furniture. Old gross building. Any open floor design is automatically a 1 regardless of the rest of the building.
2. Exterior shared office or nicer building or standing desks.
3. Multiple of the above perks but still shared office. (max score for shared offices is a 3).
4. Individual interior office, building sucks and walls are glass.
5. Interior office with glass walls but some building perks or standing desk.
6. Window office. Still glass. (max fishbowl is a 6).
7. Frosted glass window office.
8. Actual walls. Building/furniture is all gross.
9. Nice building and furniture, walls and a door. Window office.
10. Gorgeous facilities and perks, window office with great views walls and a door.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:00 pm

how would we have more than 2-3 points of comparison?

Unironically 1st semester 2Ls at Columbia and NYU have the best perspective on this as they've been (pre-covid) wining and dining at various NY offices all day every day if they so choose.

I wonder how Kirkland NY feels about making all of their offices fishbowls at the insistence of David Fox who probably hasn't set foot in the office in two full years.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:24 pm

I wonder how Kirkland NY feels about making all of their offices fishbowls at the insistence of David Fox who probably hasn't set foot in the office in two full years.

Much as I hate it, I think glass walls is here to stay. It's building design, for more light internally. It's not like partners have it better, they also have the same glass walls (not in KE NY just in another fishbowl). I just wish it was partially frosted or had shutters.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am

Literally would not care if my office had the greatest views on the planet, a peloton for every associate, and a personal cold brew dispenser on every corner if I didn't have a private office. That is the number one thing that matters.

That's right, and these filthy boomer scumbags and their gen-X bootlickers are so mad when you call them out on it.

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:24 pm

I wonder how Kirkland NY feels about making all of their offices fishbowls at the insistence of David Fox who probably hasn't set foot in the office in two full years.

Much as I hate it, I think glass walls is here to stay. It's building design, for more light internally. It's not like partners have it better, they also have the same glass walls (not in KE NY just in another fishbowl). I just wish it was partially frosted or had shutters.

I’m at another Kirkland office with all glass walls, and I also wish they were frosted. But at least I have a private office (so nobody can hear me and I can’t hear them) with a view, and the building is otherwise modern + has perks.

Being in a private fishbowl is 10,000x better than any sort of open office, cubicle, bullpen, or other situation where my coworkers and I have to listen to each other. I’ve suffered through that before and it’s horrible.